non compliant

[Farmelectrics]

having a good read of the best practise guide 4 and reading the non compliant with bs 7671 that do not give rise to danger and do not require reporting confusing I must say ie in the past ive allways given a code 3 for switch wires that have no brown sleeving on ie blue cables but it states that you don't give it a code its just non compliant with bs7671 but surely if its non compliant it wants reporting your thoughts please

 

[HandySparks]

Not confusing at all.

If it's not immediately or potentially dangerous and if changing it won't materially improve the safety of the installation, don't code it.

 

[Octopus]

I simply can't be arsxd to code any missing brown or red sleeving - life if far to short to bother with this!.

Tin hat on!

 

[Risteard]

Not confusing at all.

If it's not immediately or potentially dangerous and if changing it won't materially improve the safety of the installation, don't code it.

Indeed, but the potential confusion arises from the fact that the Regulations exist to ensure so far as is reasonably practicable that electrical installations are safe. If it wasn't considered necessary for safety then the Requirement wouldn't exist. So I can see where he is coming from.

 

[Farmelectrics]

right long day today im cracking a tinny open

 

[7029 dave]

The line conductors can be marked as well, ie live or L, not necessarily sleeved.

 

[Simonslimline]

To be honest anyone poking around inside an electrical system should possess the know how and competence to be able to identify the conductors with no problems really.

All that said putting a bit of sleeving on is not really a big ask when installing new circuits etc. We have always given this scenario a C3 when carrying out an EICR, over the top maybe but would still be a satisfactory report none the less.

I am sure many may disagree with this however. :rockon2:

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Remember that the BPGs, GNs and the OSG are just opinions, not Regulations.
Code C3, is just a catch all code where an inspector observes a non-compliance which (for whatever reason) cannot be recorded as a C1 or C2.

 

[Blademan_98]

Remember that the BPGs, GNs and the OSG are just opinions, not Regulations.
Code C3, is just a catch all code where an inspector observes a non-compliance which (for whatever reason) cannot be recorded as a C1 or C2.

That is how I have just been taught at the college
The practical had a switch with no sleeve and I marked it as C3 which was deemed correct.
B

 

[Risteard]

Code C3, is just a catch all code where an inspector observes a non-compliance which (for whatever reason) cannot be recorded as a C1 or C2.

Not really, as a non-compliance without any definite safety deficit is not to be awarded any recommendation whatsoever (not even C3). Not all non-compliances are to be recorded.