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[Darkwood]

Wouldn't a pole thread be the better solution here to gauge opinion ... ?

 

[Adam W]

Wouldn't a pole thread be the better solution here to gauge opinion ... ?

Kurwa mac!

 

[Guest77]

Wouldn't a pole thread be the better solution here to gauge opinion ... ?

When the manifesto's have been published I think one will go up.

 

[dingledong]

mdf you did say major parties ,why is green on your list

 

[Guest77]

mdf you did say major parties ,why is green on your list

Good question, Answer=I just don't know

 

[telectrix]

Wouldn't a pole thread be the better solution here to gauge opinion ... ?

you can't blame it all on the polish. :willy_nilly:

 

[dingledong]

That is always a possibility, good call mate. Even though I hate the idea of any organisation propping up the tories.
Incidentally, the word "Tory" comes from a middle Irish word "Torai" which meant outlaw, robber or brigand

I thought it was from that film Tora Tora Tora

 

[dingledong]

That is always a possibility, good call mate. Even though I hate the idea of any organisation propping up the tories.
Incidentally, the word "Tory" comes from a middle Irish word "Torai" which meant outlaw, robber or brigand

So what your saying here is you don't want anyone propping up the Tories ,you want them to get in as a majority government ,I knew you would come around

 

[trev]

No, you haven't really figured me out have you mate
I want this bunch of out of touch nepotistic crooks consigned to the dustbin of history along with their odious policies which punish the poor for being poor. I want their lies to be exposed for the mockery of the electorate that they are.
I want Iain Duncan Smith to be forced to answer to parliament about why everything he has ever touched has turned to rat droppings and has cost us billions despite his claims that everything is hunky dory. I also want him to explain why he "made mistakes" on his CV
I want Cameron to explain why he has no money to fund police officers or schools but when the chance of a good old war comes along he can suddenly rake around in the sock drawer and find all the cash he needs and more.
I want George Osborne to explain why he has borrowed more in the last four years than the last administration did in thirteen and how he can justify giving £40kpa to millionaires while old people are faced with a heat or eat dilemma.
I want the Theresa May to explain why she bungled the extradition of dangerous people who could have gone earlier than they did if she hadn't screwed up her diary.
That'll do for now.

 

[Octopus]

No, you haven't really figured me out have you mate
I want this bunch of out of touch nepotistic crooks consigned to the dustbin of history along with their odious policies which punish the poor for being poor. I want their lies to be exposed for the mockery of the electorate that they are.
I want Iain Duncan Smith to be forced to answer to parliament about why everything he has ever touched has turned to rat droppings and has cost us billions despite his claims that everything is hunky dory. I also want him to explain why he "made mistakes" on his CV
I want Cameron to explain why he has no money to fund police officers or schools but when the chance of a good old war comes along he can suddenly rake around in the sock drawer and find all the cash he needs and more.
I want George Osborne to explain why he has borrowed more in the last four years than the last administration did in thirteen and how he can justify giving £40kpa to millionaires while old people are faced with a heat or eat dilemma.
I want the Theresa May to explain why she bungled the extradition of dangerous people who could have gone earlier than they did if she hadn't screwed up her diary.
That'll do for now.

And if Gordon Brown had won in 2010 he would have done EXACTLY THE SAME.

 

[dingledong]

Trev that's not what you said, you want a majority conservative government in power ! !

Is there a knighthood in it for you as you have changed your tune

 

[telectrix]

haha. sir trev of shields. has a nice ring to it.

 

[dingledong]

And if Gordon Brown had won in 2010 he would have done EXACTLY THE SAME.

Or lot lot worse

 

[trev]

And if Gordon Brown had won in 2010 he would have done EXACTLY THE SAME.

I'll rephrase it a little then. I want George Osborne to explain why he has borrowed more in the last four years than the last administration did in thirteen and why he feels it acceptable to lie to the public by telling us everything is getting better and that he has borrowing under control. While he's on he can also add how his deficit reduction plans are failing and why

 

[Octopus]

I'll rephrase it a little then. I want George Osborne to explain why he has borrowed more in the last four years than the last administration did in thirteen and why he feels it acceptable to lie to the public by telling us everything is getting better and that he has borrowing under control. While he's on he can also add how his deficit reduction plans are failing and why

Simple economics my friend.

Gordon Brown inherited a growing economy in 1997 and kept to the Tory spending plans for 2 years, the economy from 1999 to 2005 was growing ahead of forecasts so he could spend and spend and spend.

In 2005 the Treasury warned GB that tax receipts were falling and the Government should slow public spending (allocating 3% wage rises across the public sector for a decade doesn't help). Gordon Brown ignored the warnings believing that growth would return, but in 2007 the crash occured and surprise surprise the deficit began....

2001 is the only year during New Labours tenure in Government which they actually paid off any debt. All the other years was simply interest payments on the debt mountain.

The situation now, as was in 2008 onward is rather stark - either reduce public spending by about £70 billion - so thats all education spending AND military, or raise taxes..... now look over the English channel to France and they have done the latter and what's happening to their economy.

And just remember Ed Balls has stated that if Labour win in 2015 they will stick to the existing Governments spending plans so don't vote for them thinking there is a pot of Gold about to be opened and spread around.....

Tax receipts come from Income tax, VAT and corporation taxes, so you and I get taxed more, VAT is reliant on spending and any shift to increase corporation taxes will only work for UK based companies - why do you think so many companies have their HQ's in the Camen Islands, Luxembourg, Ireland etc??

Anyone promising to tax international companies is unlikely to increase tax receipts...

There are no easy answers and your mates in Labour don't have any better ideas than the current lot. They are ALL BOXED in.

 

[trev]

he feels it acceptable to lie to the public by telling us everything is getting better and that he has borrowing under control. While he's on he can also add how his deficit reduction plans are failing and why

​Simple economics. Yeah, ok then.

 

[dingledong]

But Gordon did get a growing economy

 

[Octopus]

he feels it acceptable to lie to the public by telling us everything is getting better and that he has borrowing under control. While he's on he can also add how his deficit reduction plans are failing and why

​Simple economics. Yeah, ok then.

All politicians do that. They never tell us the truth

Take your ruddy blinkers off and smell the coffee

 

[trev]

All politicians do that. They never tell us the truth

Take your ruddy blinkers off and smell the coffee

They don't all lie to the extent this lot have.
Because they all lie that makes it an acceptable thing to do?

 

[Octopus]

They don't all lie to the extent this lot have.
Because they all lie that makes it an acceptable thing to do?

I didn't say it was acceptable - ALL Goverments, in the last 35+ years have all done the same.

They are economical with the truth.

You do need to move to Scotland don't you - then you'll have Alec Salmonds false promises to contend with.

You and I can do little, or nothing, sure we can vote, but at the end of the day over 90% of the current MP's are there for the career and bring little, or no life/business experiences to the "party".