Typical hourly rates

[123]

With the agency guys who organises the job and orders materials? Where do they even get materials from, no doubt they won't have wholesalers accounts!

I'd stick to my prices, if you drop this time then you'll be asked to drop again and again.

 

[ClarkeTheSpark]

They have one wholesaler account which they permit us to use (we have one at the same branch) but they wouldn't have a clue what cable to buy, what board, breakers etc. This is the point we're trying to put across to them but all they see is ££££ signs. Sigh.

 

[123]

1 agency spark £15
1 agency foreman £19
The look on their face when they had to call you back - priceless

 

[stuartcourt]

really is stupidest thing I have heard in ages, an agency bloke only works well alongside someone who knows the installation, and then when next week comes and its a different guy from agency he can work well alongside someone who knows the installation

 

[Octopus]

Moral of the story - don't be too reliant on big customers.

Last year my largest customer accounted for only 7% of my revenue!

 

[stuartcourt]

Moral of the story - don't be too reliant on big customers.

Last year my largest customer accounted for only 7% of my revenue!

yes and they rarely offer you biscuits the fat f...........

 

[ClarkeTheSpark]

When they get an agency sparks in, we would like to be there just to see the chaos that will ensue. Cue the smug grin. And stuartcourt, sometimes you don't even get the tea to dip the biscuits into!

 

[Guest55]

Let them go with the monkeys at £15.00 and don't forget that once the Agency has taken its 20% the remaining money won't buy a quality tradesperson.

is that right ?
well im a "agency monkey" murdoch , and i'll beat hands down on skill and experience alot of cards in nic sparks.
many of which come on here without a clue.
bit of an insult that considering me and thousands other jib subbies quietly get on building this countries bigger projects while scheme sparks just do a bit of housebashing.
pfft.

 

[Redvanman]

Don't drop your rates mate it will never stop if they want to pay that low then they can't be that bothered about the standard

 

[shanky887614]

is that right ?
well im a "agency monkey" murdoch , and i'll beat hands down on skill and experience alot of cards in nic sparks.
many of which come on here without a clue.
bit of an insult that considering me and thousands other jib subbies quietly get on building this countries bigger projects while scheme sparks just do a bit of housebashing.
pfft.

i guess you could call what we are doing atm as house bashing but were actually building it and not electrics atm, going to be mixing cement all day tomorrow and my jtl assesor is coming out to see my handywork inside with t+e

 

[Sharpend]

I have to say that having done the odd bit of agency work, recently testing a government building, not all of us are monkeys, however whilst subbing to many Niccy firms over the years I have seen more of a circus than just monkeys!

I guess that's just the way the ring mistress wants it, otherwise she'd have to be answerable to the sub standards that many of her acts perform.

 

[shanky887614]

I have to say that having done the odd bit of agency work, recently testing a government building, not all of us are monkeys, however whilst subbing to many Niccy firms over the years I have seen more of a circus than just monkeys!

I guess that's just the way the ring mistress wants it, otherwise she'd have to be answerable to the sub standards that many of her acts perform.

seem many dodgy work from a so called niceic companies.

take this house for example. they reused an adaptable box so there is a 20mm hole in it, looks like they hacksawed a section of the circle out.

what takes the biscuit as well is they havent earthed the screen as well. i don't know why they payed extra for swa when there not bothering and they put it in pipe anyway

 

[JD6400]

Surely just the fact of traceability and quality control , with out pointing out who will stand the cost of any warranty work if needed ? Should make them realise what a total load of balls they are talking !
Just out of interest what sort of work do you do for them ?

 

[rmc86uk]

So this company you do work for are going to ring up an agency and say, "Our lights arent working." So the agency ring an Electrician up and give them the job and then they buy the parts? Six months down the line the parts become faulty and then the company ring the agency back and say send that Electrician back because have a warranty with them...I don't think so!

 

[123]

As the company are supplying the parts, then any repairs to faulty parts would be charged for, or at least I'd like to think so

 

[peterhardacher]

There are loads of good sparks on agency the reason being that company's do not want to take u cards in , u have more rights and benefits then agency money is awful they pay u sane as Jib if ya lucky and expect ya to be great full agency's how been the downfall of our industry. Company's do not want organised unionised lads on the books cos we would get want we was entitled to and would not be getting shafted . Government should ban agency's DIRECT EMPLOYMENT FOR SPARKS !!!!

 

[MDJ]

Hello all,

just received an email from our main customer asking us to lower our hourly rate. We're being extremely generous as it is by charging them either £30 p/h for call out jobs or £200 a day for fully qualified 17th edition electrician with 2391 and £150 a day for a fully qualified 17th edition Electrican who is taking the 2394/5 courses. Our company is NICEIC registered and without wanting to blow our trumpet, good at what we do.

Point is, the customer has seen agency sparks offered at £15 p/h and therefore we need to match (or better!) this, which is impossible. We're south eastern so if anyone is willing to reveal their hourly rates or can even offer us suggestions for an amicable resolution we would be very grateful.

stick to your guns M8, 200 a day for a spark is the going rate I reckon almost everywhere, may have to drop it 30 quid or so for local domestic works though, but 200 sounds right to me, tell them you won't do it, or do it and add the difference on to the kit you supply

 

[mselect]

I would honestly say that you are cheap as it is!

We are in west yorkshire and we charge more than that!

If you offer an unbeatable service, call the customers bluff, and they will come crawling back!

Or, you could say that the relationship is important, blah blah blah, and as a result reduce you hourly rate slightly. (the day rates are fine)!

Hope this helps...

 

[Spark1979]

I find the difference here is you are going in and basically designing a job as well as installing, then signing the job off as an Niceic company hence the company your working for is covered with their insurance should anything happen. Agency guy will turn up and pester them all day wanting to know what to do how they want it done etc etc etc then when complete who liable for the work ??????i think your rates fair sometimes you just gotta walk away and move on hard decision I know!

 

[ClarkeTheSpark]

Surely just the fact of traceability and quality control , with out pointing out who will stand the cost of any warranty work if needed ? Should make them realise what a total load of balls they are talking !
Just out of interest what sort of work do you do for them ?

Everything, refurbs, maintenance, EICR's, rewires, fire alarms and more. We blew our own trumpet and we think they've seen the light