Electric shock

[Buzz1980]

Hi just a question on responsibility here. I am working on a project and was carrying out job of setting stuff up to be worked on then I noticed my work collegue who is not a sparky up the ladder unbolting a light fixture which I didn't ask him to do and was secured by six bolts. He then shouts over can you hand me the light and I said wait I have to secure something in the center as it is loose so I comes around and said come down and I will do it as I know what I am doing before I finished he had touched the center pin of the light and got a shock. My question is do you think I was responsible for it as I didn't ask him to take down the light he did it off his own occurred. As I am worrying now and told him he shouldn't have been up there? Any replies will be much appreciated? He is fine by the way?

Thanks trig

 

[telectrix]

you can't be held responsible for a muppet doing something he should not have.

 

[Guest77]

If he was under your care then yes you are responsible, if he is assisting you that is. If however you have no care of duty for him then do not worry about it, glad he is okay of course though.

 

[Buzz1980]

No I had no responsibility for him but when I seen him doing the job as he said he was bored I finished putting stuff away and went around to say I have to do things on the light. I was saying that I had to fix the center pin fixings. Then he touched it which I didn't tell him to do which I was really annoyed at him for and told him that h shouldn't have been up there doing it I the first place as I was doing something else but because it was just a lamp/bulb needing changed he thought he could do it. I was freaking out when he said he got a shock and told him to get down before he hurts himself anymore. Do you think I was in the wrong at all?

thanks trig

 

[telectrix]

perhaps you should have suggested he changes direction and trains to be a plumber.

 

[Guest77]

No I had no responsibility for him but when I seen him doing the job as he said he was bored I finished putting stuff away and went around to say I have to do things on the light. I was saying that I had to fix the center pin fixings. Then he touched it which I didn't tell him to do which I was really annoyed at him for and told him that h shouldn't have been up there doing it I the first place as I was doing something else but because it was just a lamp/bulb needing changed he thought he could do it. I was freaking out when he said he got a shock and told him to get down before he hurts himself anymore. Do you think I was in the wrong at all?

thanks trig

No I don't think your resposible after the info you have given Trig.

 

[shanky887614]

1 sec? he intentionally went up an unsecured ladder in a plantroom that wasnt being footed and got a shock hmm.

i cant see how its your problem, if he fell of it would have been his own fault

 

[trev]

Don't forget, he was carrying out work that he had not been trained to do and under no qualified supervision. Gadgie's a numpty mate, maybe next time he'll be a bit more careful/

 

[Plonker 3]

The gene pool does strange things sometimes, thats where Darwin comes in.

 

[Geordie Spark]

perhaps you should have suggested he changes direction and trains to be a plumber.

Careful now!!! :angry_smile:

 

[Geordie Spark]

The gene pool does strange things sometimes, thats where Darwin comes in.

Gene Poole ?? ...... I think I remember him. He was a canny Rock 'n' Roll chanter!!

 

[shanky887614]

Gene Poole ?? ...... I think I remember him. He was a canny Rock 'n' Roll chanter!!

gene pool? is that why so many plumbers drown?

 

[Engineer54]

The laws an --- at the best of times, so it's anyones guess who would or wouldn't be held responsible!! My guess is that both would end up sharing responsibility....

 

[PEG]

Tend to agree with Eng,the fact that he still walks amongst us,has saved you from finding out,one way or another...if an "intruder" has legal recourse to claim against an injury sustained whilst chorring your gear,even via your dogs teeth,then a definitive answer to your question is not possible...then again,better to be judged by 12,than carried by 6 :stooge_curly:

 

[davesparks]

Do you have any proof that said intruder has legal recourse in such a situation?
Or is that just you believing and repeating what the journalists have invented on a slow news day?

 

[Engineer54]

Do you have any proof that said intruder has legal recourse in such a situation?
Or is that just you believing and repeating what the journalists have invented on a slow news day?

As i say the law is generally a full blown ---, so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if what PEG is suggesting is
the Truth the whole Truth ....and nothing but the Truth!!

 

[Guest111]

Tend to agree with Eng,the fact that he still walks amongst us,has saved you from finding out,one way or another...if an "intruder" has legal recourse to claim against an injury sustained whilst chorring your gear,even via your dogs teeth,then a definitive answer to your question is not possible...then again,better to be judged by 12,than carried by 6 :stooge_curly:

Top tip,keep a knife in a plastic bag somewhere handy at home,if you get an intruder simply beat him unconscious get his prints on the knife,place back in bag then hand to the pc on his arrival.Carrying a knife changes a simple burglary charge to one of aggravated burglary which always carries a spell inside,and naturally the police will believe you over some theiving low life that broke into your home hell bent on frightening your wife and kids and stealing your possesions.

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Tend to agree with Eng,the fact that he still walks amongst us,has saved you from finding out,one way or another...if an "intruder" has legal recourse to claim against an injury sustained whilst chorring your gear,even via your dogs teeth,then a definitive answer to your question is not possible...then again,better to be judged by 12,than carried by 6 :stooge_curly:

I like it!

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Top tip,keep a knife in a plastic bag somewhere handy at home,if you get an intruder simply beat him unconscious get his prints on the knife,place back in bag then hand to the pc on his arrival.Carrying a knife changes a simple burglary charge to one of aggravated burglary which always carries a spell inside,and naturally the police will believe you over some theiving low life that broke into your home hell bent on frightening your wife and kids and stealing your possesions.

I like that as well!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Do you have any proof that said intruder has legal recourse in such a situation?
Or is that just you believing and repeating what the journalists have invented on a slow news day?

Well a burglar once broke into the place where my dad worked, fell down an inspection pit breaking his legs and was stuck there until the morning.

He sued on the grounds that the pit should have been covered and won his case.

He got his compo and the company got roasted by HSE.

 

[PEG]

Do you have any proof that said intruder has legal recourse in such a situation?
Or is that just you believing and repeating what the journalists have invented on a slow news day?

Well,my friend,having both parents journalists their whole working lives,one sister a paramedic,and the other an officer in GMP,AND having actually BEEN in many of these "predicaments",i need furnish your good self with nothing,but my opinion. :coolgleamA:

 

[Besoeker]

you can't be held responsible for a muppet doing something he should not have.

Trouble is that you can.
I have to sit through interminable safety courses and examples get cited.

London Metropol construction work........
Some workers went off to have a brew. Left the key in the fork lift truck.
A labourer thought it would be a good way to get up to some scaffolding, fell off and got injured.

Although not directly involved London Metropol took the rap.
Duty of care......