A reminder to everyone - FatallyFlawed - Child Plug Socket Covers Campaign

Dranok · Mar 3, 2022

ipf said:
Although, just been going through some of the 'comments from customers' on Amazon....I've yet to find one later that 2016, so here's hoping.

Thanks for saying that -- Gush, water surprise! My comment has been deleted within 24 hours. Or possibly they take a long time to be approved... ;-)

westward10 · Mar 3, 2022

Dranok said:
Thanks for saying that -- Gush, water surprise! My comment has been deleted within 24 hours. Or possibly they take a long time to be approved... ;-)

None of your posts have been deleted nor are there any awaiting approval.

littlespark · Mar 3, 2022

westward10 said:
None of your posts have been deleted nor are there any awaiting approval.

I think he means on Amazon comments… or somewhere else these things are for sale.

Dranok · Mar 3, 2022

littlespark said:
I think he means on Amazon comments… or somewhere else these things are for sale.

Yes, I rather hoped that was obvious, however...
And it turns out I was being pessimistic: got the standard Amazon email at lunch time, my post has been approved!

Simon47 · Mar 12, 2022

A while back I emailed ASDA to ask why they were selling dangerous items - with a link to the fatally flawed website. Got waffle back that basically said "blah, blah, suppliers says they are safe - and in any case we are stopping this product shortly anyway". I just haven't got around to emailing them about the replacement - also non-compliant on dimentions.
Problem with dealing with large companies like this is that the buyers are not technical (in general) - for them it's a case of "customer says X, their supplier says it's rubbish and the product is safe", so why should they believe random customer over the supplier's technical people ?
I suppose I could point out that once they've been told of a danger, in any subsequent court case they'd have naff-all defence ...

The other tack I've considered, but SWMBO tends to restrain me on such matters, is to go in at a busy period, and ask loudly at the service desk to speak to the duty manager about the dangerous items they have on sale.

littlespark · Mar 16, 2022

I’ve mentioned these bloody things to my wife who says they are prevalent in the school she works in….
Is there an official HSE document about these or only the Fatally Flawed page?

Simon47 · Mar 16, 2022

Check the FF web site - both NHS and Dept. for Education saying "do not use". So absolutely no excuse for any school to be using them.
In fact, you could point out that a school using them would need to have a very robust risk assessment in place to justify explicitly going against expert advice on this matter - and be able to defend that risk assessment in court when facing a a serious charge (which could include corporate manslaughter). If that doesn't get the head and governing body to have a twitchy bum then nothing will.

littlespark · Mar 17, 2022

during my research, I’ve been through the FF website and any links to official government departments such as DoE or NHS come back with dead links.
I’m looking for an official stance on these things rather than a campaign group against them.

I am in no way condoning the use of these. I, as an engineer, understand why they are dangerous and why they shouldn’t be used, but I would like an official government stance before contacting the school head. He may not see them as a problem without official guidance.

It’s the same as places like Amazon still selling them…. They haven’t been banned yet, so they have no reason not to sell them.

UNG · Mar 17, 2022

littlespark said:
during my research, I’ve been through the FF website and any links to official government departments such as DoE or NHS come back with dead links.
I’m looking for an official stance on these things rather than a campaign group against them.

I am in no way condoning the use of these. I, as an engineer, understand why they are dangerous and why they shouldn’t be used, but I would like an official government stance before contacting the school head. He may not see them as a problem without official guidance.

It’s the same as places like Amazon still selling them…. They haven’t been banned yet, so they have no reason not to sell them.

On here there was this thread back in 2016

littlespark · Mar 17, 2022

UNG said:
On here there was this thread back in 2016

Another dead link to nhs page I’m afraid.

I’m going to contact the head of the school myself, as an expert in the field….

Spoon · Mar 17, 2022

littlespark said:
Another dead link to nhs page I’m afraid.

I’m going to contact the head of the school myself, as an expert in the field….

Here you go mate. Knew I had it somewhere.

https://www.cas.mhra.gov.uk/ViewandAcknowledgment/ViewAttachment.aspx?Attachment_id=102519

Simon47 · Mar 18, 2022

Just checked - the first four links on the FF home page all work for me - so NHS, DfE, Parliamentary written question, and BEAMA statement.

littlespark · Mar 21, 2022

This mornings trek into Homebase and found these in the electrical department.
I think I’ll send the management an informational correspondence.

ipf · Mar 21, 2022

littlespark said:
This mornings trek into Homebase and found these in the electrical department.
I think I’ll send the management an informational correspondence.

View attachment 96199

If you grab a load, walk out and cry 'thief' a few times, it might just catch their attention...

brianmoooore · Mar 21, 2022

Could well get the desired result, especially if you notify the local press in advance.

littlespark · Apr 13, 2022

I asked the Scottish Govt about them…. And got a reply.

Pass the buck to UK govt

LeeH · Apr 13, 2022

I like the OP’s username but not convinced it’s their original one!

DPG · Apr 13, 2022

LeeH said:
I like the OP’s username but not convinced it’s their original one!

Good point! Did the OP change it?

Rockingit · Apr 15, 2022

I found a whole load of these in a Scottish theatre the other night, removed them all and wrote the website on them in sharpy!

123 · Apr 16, 2022

DPG said:
Good point! Did the OP change it?

Pretty sure it was Tony, who was a member for a number of years but got deleted and username change to that. Sadly Tony has passed away, but that petty insult of a name remains.

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