Approved Electrician

[Toneyz]

I have been asked via a PM jobs advertised for a approved electrician I believe its a term that was used years ago referring to electricians that had some experience behind them, may be some of you could explain better than me and what it means when advertised for today.

 

[westward10]

I think "approved" is a JIB recognition.

 

[telectrix]

what he said. ^^^^^^. it's a JIB grade on your card.

 

[Pete999]

Used to be over 25 with C&G B certificate I think, was a while ago the C cert gave you Technician, again I think that was how it was. Now I think what you mean is an Approved contractor, what that means well your guess is as good as mine, something to do with scams I believe. But what do I know? I'm retired so to some my input don't matter. You know who you are.

 

[DavidSpark]

JIB Grading - https://www.ecscard.org.uk/jib-grading.aspx

Approved Grade
The Approved Grade shows the cardholder has achieved the Core Grade and, after at least two years’ experience, has taken up additional responsibilities as required by the Approved Grade recognition.

There is additional training required to progress to the Approved Grade. Depending on the Core Grade, this is usually a qualification in Initial Verification and Periodic Inspection & Testing. Qualifications are dependent on the duties of the job role that the Approved Grade requires.

 

[Ian1981]

To achieve the approved grade you need to have the standard electricians qualifications plus a 17th edition qualification and testing and inspection covering initial verification and periodic testing

 

[Ian1981]

Used to be over 25 with C&G B certificate I think, was a while ago the C cert gave you Technician, again I think that was how it was. Now I think what you mean is an Approved contractor, what that means well your guess is as good as mine, something to do with scams I believe. But what do I know? I'm retired so to some my input don't matter. You know who you are.

Nothing to do with scams pete unless you also consider the JIB a scam as well?
(Many do by the way)

 

[Risteard]

As stated Approved Electrician is a JIB grade (between Electrician and Technician).

 

[Toneyz]

Used to be over 25 with C&G B certificate I think, was a while ago the C cert gave you Technician, again I think that was how it was. Now I think what you mean is an Approved contractor, what that means well your guess is as good as mine, something to do with scams I believe.

Thanks Pete I think you were on the right track of an explanation in your first part of reply I am not referring to the NICEIC Approved contractors scheme.

 

[Pete999]

Nothing to do with scams pete unless you also consider the JIB a scam as well?
(Many do by the way)

I think the OP is on about "approved contractor" which is scam based isn't it?

 

[Pete999]

Thanks Pete I think you were on the right track of an explanation in your first part of reply I am not referring to the NICEIC Approved contractors scheme.

Oh sorry mate my mistake

 

[Ian1981]

I think the OP is on about "approved contractor" which is scam based isn't it?

It's a JIB grade and nothing to do with a scheme.
Think it only really works if you are employed by a JIB firm as the pay is slightly higher than a standard 'electricians ' grade.

 

[Pete999]

http://www.jib.org.uk/documents/handbooks/19-28557-jib-handbook-2017-section-4.pdf

 

[Toneyz]

Is there many JIB companies left these days ?

 

[Ian1981]

No idea I've never worked for one.

 

[westward10]

It's a spam then, sorry I find the word scam irritating.

 

[Toneyz]

It's a spam then, sorry I find the word scam irritating.

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[ChrisElectrical88]

JIB grade and pay related if you work for a JIB company. I hold a Approved card as a JIb card is a must at our company for the ECS side of it, yet they don't pay near JIB rates, make of that what you will.

 

[electric al]

The J.I.B approved card is only really relative if you are a sub-contractor or working for
an agency,because it is tied in with construction health and safety (CSCS).
Very rarely will a direct employer ask if you have it because they are responsible for
ensuring you have H&S training . Agencies on the other hand will always insist that you are an approved electrician , mainly to cover their own arse, although they understand very little
about it themselves other than it lets them off the hook in the event of something going wrong..
I have to say that in my opinion Pete was entirely correct when he said it was a scam !

























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[robo83]

I've had 1 quote turned down as I wasn't an approved electrican. When I got back in touch with the customer and asked what do they mean (I thought JIB) they told me I must be registered Approved as that's that's what they had been told was required... I had my scheme call them up (stroma) and explain that approved was a term used by another scheme.

I got the work and continue to regularly.

 

[Toneyz]

I've had 1 quote turned down as I wasn't an approved electrican. When I got back in touch with the customer and asked what do they mean (I thought JIB) they told me I must be registered Approved as that's that's what they had been told was required... I had my scheme call them up (stroma) and explain that approved was a term used by another scheme.

I got the work and continue to regularly.

Their getting confused with the NICEIC Approved Contractors Scheme after all these years the public are still non the wiser.

 

[7029 dave]

Approved was/is graded by the JIB, not to say non JIB firms won't pay it, if they think you are worthy of it.

 

[Woofie]

You can't get a JIB grade such as 'electrician' or 'approved electrician' unless you are nominated by a JIB company and hold valid qualifications.
Ostensibly it's to maintain standards.

 

[westward10]

You can't get a JIB grade such as 'electrician' or 'approved electrician' unless you are nominated by a JIB company and hold valid qualifications.
Ostensibly it's to maintain standards.

I don't believe that to be correct.

 

[electric al]

Sorry but neither do I

 

[Pete999]

Nor Me
JIB Grading - https://www.ecscard.org.uk/jib-grading

 

[JK-Electrical]

You can't get a JIB grade such as 'electrician' or 'approved electrician' unless you are nominated by a JIB company and hold valid qualifications.
Ostensibly it's to maintain standards.

I was self-employed when I applied to be upgraded from electrician to approved electrician. I was not nominated by my former employer.

Anyone who served their time back in the late 70s/early 80s and had achieved success in the old City & Guilds 236 B course would have been entitled to apply for upgrading to approved electrician after having attained two years post-apprenticeship experience.

 

[Billsays]

I was self-employed when I applied to be upgraded from electrician to approved electrician. I was not nominated by my former employer.

Anyone who served their time back in the late 70s/early 80s and had achieved success in the old City & Guilds 236 B course would have been entitled to apply for upgrading to approved electrician after having attained two years post-apprenticeship experience.

I agree, I seem to remember you also had to have the C&G "Electricians" certificate. It was a long time ago though!

 

[Pete999]

I agree, I seem to remember you also had to have the C&G "Electricians" certificate. It was a long time ago though!

Agree