Bet anyone thinking of posting any type of electrical question has a sudden change of mind after reading this thread..... Who cares if he's in a scam - everyone does nothing but whinge about them anyway - show me a prosecution before anyone talks legality also, who cares if he's 30yrs or 30 days not directly affecting anyone on here is it, if people think its a stupid question for a spark to ask then don't answer as your knowledge far outweighs his.

The industry is in a difficult situation as it is without matters being made worse by people advertising on their websites that they are an NICEIC DI and/or AP and then stating openly on this forum that they are not. The NICEIC are hot about pursuing imposters. They have prosecuted people in the past, it's been well advertised. And as you ask, Google 'NICEIC and prosecution' - there's a page of reports on the subject
 
The industry is in a difficult situation as it is without matters being made worse by people advertising on their websites that they are an NICEIC DI and/or AP and then stating openly on this forum that they are not. The NICEIC are hot about pursuing imposters. They have prosecuted people in the past, it's been well advertised. And as you ask, Google 'NICEIC and prosecution' - there's a page of reports on the subject

Ment part p prosecution, not intrested in niceic impostering - it's the likes likes of the nic who have knackered the industry anyway.
 
If I'd asked the question :is it possible to have only 1 RCD in a CU, would that have made people happier?And before you start spitting venom, I've consulted my OSG and in some circumstances it is. I could have a labelled socket, fed through Earthed metal conduit and lights also wired in conduit (as long as they're not in a bathroom) without them being on an RCD, thus providing me with a split load.Challengers?
 
I'm not questioning what is best practice-I know already. what I'm on this site for is info on extreme situations where the rules can be interpreted differently but still comply.
 
You've "been an electrician for 30 odd years" and still had to ask about using 1mm flex on a kitchen ring final ??

As for your other thread about the sockets on the skirting .... lets not even go there !!

Now we have this third thread to entertain us & at the same time boggle our minds !! ... Well done - you've scored a hat trick !!

It's not just the 30 years that are "odd" .. it's also the experienced "spark" who has to ask questions that a second year apprentice knows the answer to !!


(NOT a "smug comment" ..... just expressing my view)

what's wrong with the sockets on the skirting board question?do u have any answers cos it doesn't appear so
 
Well to be fair your question was...

I've got to install a CU for an old fusebox.Problem is, there's not enough space for a split load CU.As I've only got 7 circuits, is it alright for me to put a unit in with 1 RCD that protects all the circuits? .

Well your the installer is it alright ? you have the OSG interpret as you see fit you have to sign it off mate !




 
I never said I was a NICEIC contractor. I've been an electrician for 30 odd years but not so much domestic./QUOTE]

So why the **** does your website say you are an NICEIC DI and AP? I presume you are neither Part P or Trust Mark either?!!

I've forwarded a copy of your website to the NICEIC. They have a section on their website for imposters...

You REALLY are an idiot and I couldn't be happier that u've sent a copy of "my website" to NICEIC, especially as this website has absolutely nothing to do with me and they'll probably note you down as a jobsworth busybody to be ignored in future-Well done!!
 
If I'd asked the question :is it possible to have only 1 RCD in a CU,
Anything is possible.

would that have made people happier?
No, because you're supposed to know the answer already. That's your job.
Do taxi-drivers have a forum where people ask "How do you start the car and then what"?

And before you start spitting venom, I've consulted my OSG and in some circumstances it is. I could have a labelled socket,
You can't label all of them. That doesn't count.

fed through Earthed metal conduit and lights also wired in conduit
It has to be steel, you know.
RCBOs would be easier. You could use MICC.

(as long as they're not in a bathroom) without them being on an RCD,
No point then.

thus providing me with a split load.
Why are you so keen on a split load?

Challengers?
No.
 
You REALLY are an idiot and I couldn't be happier that u've sent a copy of "my website" to NICEIC, especially as this website has absolutely nothing to do with me and they'll probably note you down as a jobsworth busybody to be ignored in future-Well done!!

You'd think that after your first thread got closed down after getting out of hand you might keep your head down till the dust settled.
Keep digging that hole fella.
 
I'll tell you what E4u , if you come clean now about who you are and what your real electrical experience is , we'll lay off and try and help.
Genuine offer cos no-one is buying your story TBH ??
 
electrician4u, contrary to what you believe, the majority of us on here actually like helping people with genuine problems. The trouble is, this forum is a bit like the workplace... it's all about how you come across to people, and how you phrase your questions. Unlike the workplace, we don't know you, can't see you, and know nothing about you, so it's harder to form an opinion and that makes what one says all the more important.
If someone comes out with a sarky comment when you post something (even if it's meant in jest), then by biting back and insulting everyone you just end up digging a hole. There is no doubt that we can be an unforgiving lot, but when someone holds their hands up and sees what they wrote the way the rest of us see it, then you will find that there is a wealth of knowledge here and many professionals willing to help.
I'm afraid that you have really upset a lot of good electricians on here, and although I'm sure you don't give a damn, it makes this forum a poorer place.
 
Anything is possible.

No, because you're supposed to know the answer already. That's your job.
Do taxi-drivers have a forum where people ask "How do you start the car and then what"?

You can't label all of them. That doesn't count.

It has to be steel, you know.
RCBOs would be easier. You could use MICC.

No point then.

Why are you so keen on a split load?

No.

If I knew the answer already, would there be any point asking the question? If everyone knew everything about the regs, this forum wouldn't exist.In answer to the split load question, without RCBO's it wouldn't comply
 
You'd think that after your first thread got closed down after getting out of hand you might keep your head down till the dust settled.
Keep digging that hole fella.

All that proved about the thread being shut down is that the moderator thought you were being unhelpful.Keep my head down-what are you, the forum gestapo?
 
I'll tell you what E4u , if you come clean now about who you are and what your real electrical experience is , we'll lay off and try and help.
Genuine offer cos no-one is buying your story TBH ??

Tbh? don't know that one
 
electrician4u, contrary to what you believe, the majority of us on here actually like helping people with genuine problems. The trouble is, this forum is a bit like the workplace... it's all about how you come across to people, and how you phrase your questions. Unlike the workplace, we don't know you, can't see you, and know nothing about you, so it's harder to form an opinion and that makes what one says all the more important.
If someone comes out with a sarky comment when you post something (even if it's meant in jest), then by biting back and insulting everyone you just end up digging a hole. There is no doubt that we can be an unforgiving lot, but when someone holds their hands up and sees what they wrote the way the rest of us see it, then you will find that there is a wealth of knowledge here and many professionals willing to help.
I'm afraid that you have really upset a lot of good electricians on here, and although I'm sure you don't give a damn, it makes this forum a poorer place.

I can tell there's a hardcore of you out there who spend alot of time on this forum but I gotta say I think you've lost your tolerance of people who don't know the regs inside out. when I joined this forum 3 years ago you could ask a question without getting attacked by all sides.ok, I admit I asked the question wrongly. I should've asked: in a limited space what are my options as I couldn't find any split boards which would fit in the space available.If anyone's upset, I'm just defending myself from this onslaught. I think you're scaring people away from this site by being so aggressive
 
I'll tell you what E4u , if you come clean now about who you are and what your real electrical experience is , we'll lay off and try and help.
Genuine offer cos no-one is buying your story To Be Honest??

One last time lol.
 
I can tell there's a hardcore of you out there who spend alot of time on this forum but I gotta say I think you've lost your tolerance of people who don't know the regs inside out. when I joined this forum 3 years ago you could ask a question without getting attacked by all sides.ok, I admit I asked the question wrongly. I should've asked: in a limited space what are my options as I couldn't find any split boards which would fit in the space available.If anyone's upset, I'm just defending myself from this onslaught. I think you're scaring people away from this site by being so aggressive

I can honestly say that the only time I have ever felt "aggressive" on this forum was when a junior (young) member made a "mom" joke trying to be "all that". He later apologised and no hard feelings.
There is no doubt that as a profession we have become less tolerant over the years, mainly due to the influx of "professionals" who have completed a few quick courses and gone straight into taking customers' hard-earned cash with absolutely no knowledge of what they are doing half the time. More often than not they come on here asking how to use a multimeter.
I feel sad that you felt you had to "defend yourself", but as I say, we don't know you from Adam (no offence Adam).
I'm sure that a few apologies to anyone you personally insulted would be reciprocated, then we can go back to business.
This is the best electricians forum for a reason you know :)
 
I can tell there's a hardcore of you out there who spend alot of time on this forum but I gotta say I think you've lost your tolerance of people who don't know the regs inside out. when I joined this forum 3 years ago you could ask a question without getting attacked by all sides.ok, I admit I asked the question wrongly. I should've asked: in a limited space what are my options as I couldn't find any split boards which would fit in the space available.If anyone's upset, I'm just defending myself from this onslaught. I think you're scaring people away from this site by being so aggressive


I personally think the tolerance has gone as more and more the same simple stuffs getting asked, rather than using the search first.
 
The problem is that it often appears that some posters are not electricians but DIYers, especially when they don' answer questions regarding their OP's.
 
After many years of various online gaming forums (especially WoW forums) this place is far far too tame to even compare with nastiness and trolls.

Best thing to do is sitback, chill about then post a reply when someone's got your back up....admittedly i dont always follow my own advice but on the whole it's when you bit back that threads got to ****e.....basically dont give 'em the ammo to load thier guns.
 

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