EICR audits _________

[Andy78]

They brought it under 416.2

416.2.4 is the relevant one

 

[Andy78]

Agree with your bit about can be removed without a tool or key Andy, but if you are going to fiddle about with a CU and remove blanks with your fingers? well say no more.

Aye, but a report based on an inspection is a matter of safety and the regulations, not whether or not someone should or not be fiddling with something and whether or not they get what's coming to them.

 

[Wilko]

Do blanks have to be metal now, strictly speaking they are not part of the enclosure.

IMHO no the blanks are not required to be metal either then or now. The blanks that secure to the din rail are, well, more secure and so an improvement (?) would be my thought.

 

[Flanders]

Why do they supply plastic blanks if they are not fit for purpose , I've lost count of the amount of distribution boards and consumer units with clip on blanks I've come across and never coded them, Normally you need a screw driver to prize them out anyway. As for light pendants with there exposed live conductors in them when the bulb is removed, and the screw off cover , I will never understand how they are safe PS I always use the Full Blanks that clip on the din rail when installing boards.

 

[Nigel]

It is a C2. If in a cupboard that has controlled access then a C3.

Pendants have further protection to terminals whereas a CU has an unprotected busbar inside.

 

[Flanders]

Not all Cu have unprotected bus Bars, Merlin gerin has switched on them and then there is the Plug on MCBS .like crabtree and square D

 

[Pete999]

Not all Cu have unprotected bus Bars, Merlin gerin has switched on them and then there is the Plug on MCBS .like crabtree and square D

?

 

[westward10]

It is a C2. If in a cupboard that has controlled access then a C3.

Pendants have further protection to terminals whereas a CU has an unprotected busbar inside.

What a C2 for having plastic blank plates?

 

[Strima]

Schneider supply plastic blanks with their ISOBar boards.

 

[Judd]

It is a C2. If in a cupboard that has controlled access then a C3.

Pendants have further protection to terminals whereas a CU has an unprotected busbar inside.

Further protection?

 

[Nigel]

Not all Cu have unprotected bus Bars, Merlin gerin has switched on them and then there is the Plug on MCBS .like crabtree and square D

Agreed. But you are ussuming they have been switched off.

 

[Nigel]

Not all Cu have unprotected bus Bars, Merlin gerin has switched on them and then there is the Plug on MCBS .like crabtree and square D

Agreed. But you are ussuming they have been switched off.

 

[Nigel]

What a C2 for having plastic blank plates?

The material has nothing to do with it. It is the fact that a live bus bar can be accessed without the use of a tool.

 

[Nigel]

Further protection?View attachment 43524

Fair comment.

 

[telectrix]

i think the argument is more that the plastic blanks can be removed without use of a tool, thus compromising the IP integrity of the CU.

 

[telectrix]

oops, beaten to it by the fake tan boy. .

 

[Nigel]

i think the argument is more that the plastic blanks can be removed without use of a tool, thus compromising the IP integrity of the CU.

Finally.

Who would have though a scouser on the rob.

 

[telectrix]

Finally.

Who would have though a scouser on the rob.

Oi! i know where you live. Kop End Mafia have a file on you..

 

[westward10]

Must admit I never fit clip in blanks, if not using Hager or Memshield modular blanks I cost in fitting mcbs to the spare ways. There are the odd plastic blanks like the old Memera 21 which are twist fit and cannot be removed.

 

[Octopus]

i think the argument is more that the plastic blanks can be removed without use of a tool, thus compromising the IP integrity of the CU.

These somewhat dubious CU blanks have been around for years ........ so I simply can't agree with the coding of these

Personally I like the Wylex ones that can't be removed unless the cover is removed.