Yes thanks, Pete, noticed no NICEIC only NAPIT the seminars for SPD@s and the Aico smoke detectors was informative got a new drill and 5Ah batteries got a CK Armourslice (I will see if they are worth the good reviews) and some new Dewalt flat wood drill bits we missed out on a hammer drill at the Makita stand they had none left was at a very good price (I had all the prices written down before I went) said hello to John Ward and the E5 group. Got some free samples for standing tray off the wall seems a good idea. then went up the road and had a pub meal and a pint of cider.