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Dan

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Surely every member is respected.

It sounds ever so cliquey.

I think in the current times when everybody should be totally equal, denoting who's 'respected' it a bit cheeky.

It used to be called "Elite Member" - Christ, imagine if we had that these days?!?!?!
On TilersForums.com it's now 'Trusted Advisor' but even then the advice changes and it's marking old now inaccurate posts as if the post should be trusted. And it can cause a bit of a shitstorm every now and again because some poor sod has tiled their bathroom the old way and their tiles are falling off.

I've put a poll up to get a feel for it. But it's not to say if either outcome is clear - that we will go for it.

It's up for discussion.

Please be professional with your replies. That said we wont be warning anybody for speaking out. This is my own thread and my chin can take it. :)
 
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I assume it was. I can't actually remember.

I think we wanted to show who's advice was to be more accurate than another. But over time it just got dished out to friends and whatnot.

We even had votes on members in tilersforums.com. Imagine getting the tag and then one day finding out several people voted against you getting it!

It's shocking really IMO.
 

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Not sure which way to vote for this. I can understand your point of view but it's sometimes useful for the newcomers to see who is 'respected'.
I thought that it only got given to people who earned it.

But over time it just got dished out to friends and whatnot.
Explains why I don't have it..... as I have no friends... or life.... :sob::sob::sob:

I have a Forum Mentor? Should that be looks at as well, if the Respected Member is being looked at?
 
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Forum mentors help out the trainees - so that's sort of got a purpose.

I'm pretty sure advice these days is chosen as a whole and not just one person with the tag going around - perhaps even putting off newer guys from posting? Because they don't have the tag and somebody with it has already replied?

Not sure.

I'm not much for it personally. Whether earned or not.
 
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Forum mentors help out the trainees - so that's sort of got a purpose.

I'm pretty sure advice these days is chosen as a whole and not just one person with the tag going around - perhaps even putting off newer guys from posting? Because they don't have the tag and somebody with it has already replied?

Not sure.

I'm not much for it personally. Whether earned or not.
Is there any point in having any of the titles you see under someones name? Except for Admin & Moderator as they may be useful to people.
 

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Surely every member is respected.

It sounds ever so cliquey.

I think in the current times when everybody should be totally equal, denoting who's 'respected' it a bit cheeky.

It used to be called "Elite Member" - Christ, imagine if we had that these days?!?!?!
On TilersForums.com it's now 'Trusted Advisor' but even then the advice changes and it's marking old now inaccurate posts as if the post should be trusted. And it can cause a bit of a shitstorm every now and again because some poor sod has tiled their bathroom the old way and their tiles are falling off.

I've put a poll up to get a feel for it. But it's not to say if either outcome is clear - that we will go for it.

It's up for discussion.

Please be professional with your replies. That said we wont be warning anybody for speaking out. This is my own thread and my chin can take it. :)
 
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Not really sure it does that these days. Does it?

If somebody has gone out of their way, there's surely a better name than 'respected'. It sounds ever so 1960's golf club lol
 
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*tips hat.

I think it's been brewing for ages.

It's the same few heads every year. I'd urge them click the button today.
 
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I nearly gave the tongue-in-cheek options of:-

Yes, It's cliquey
No, because I have it

But thought it's too soon lol
 

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Not really sure it does that these days. Does it?

If somebody has gone out of their way, there's surely a better name than 'respected'. It sounds ever so 1960's golf club lol
The whole situation is getting out of hand, everyone just chill out and log off today, then come back tomorrow otherwise you will make rash decisions which you will regret, it is a forum not your life
Mot bedtime yet, and Meds not taken. far to early to log out, maybe in a couple of hours after me nap, and Massage, cus I'm an old git with no life.
 

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Not really sure it does that these days. Does it?

If somebody has gone out of their way, ther's surely a better name than 'respected'. It sounds ever so 1960's golf club lol
To be fair it was meant to show extra special respect from the staff. Looking at the name now it can be taken the wrong way lol
 
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I don't think I'd register to a forum that gave more weight to one type of user over and above others.

Though I'm staff on a couple so perhaps I see it that way.

Imagine a mate of your mate on facebook somehow having more weight over your content just because you don't post as much on there. It just wouldn't wash.

Nobody from facebook values any post over another.

I think these days - people just share. We're used to it.

Back then we needed some way to encourage it. But now it encourages the opposite IMO.

Not sure.
 

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How about "Qualified Electrician" or "In The Trade"

I know the term is loose in terms of what seems a person qualified but if the RMs have been in the trade then it wouldn't hurt to actually point they out, especially as they come here for advise; we point out Trainees afterall so why not actual sparkies?
 
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I don't think we owe anything to any one member. We can't do. I love those who contribute loads and help. But one day a few, as always, screw it up for the masses. And it backfires.

I think he gets respect automatically because his content is accurate. His peers already know he's respected. He doesnt need a badge. Surely.
 

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How about "Qualified Electrician" or "In The Trade"

I know the term is loose in terms of what seems a person qualified but if the RMs have been in the trade then it wouldn't hurt to actually point they out, especially as they come here for advise; we point out Trainees afterall so why not actual sparkies?
The problem with that is it can be open to interpretation.
What do you class someone who is a Qualified Electrician? Do they need to have a JIB card?
On the opposite hand nearly anyone can be classed as 'In the Trade'
 
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Forum chimp for you, or Clown :D please don’t go anywhere, your hilarious lol
I'm after your 'Muppet' title mate...
 

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i'm not sure about the work involved but here is a suggestion to mull over.
put an agree / disagree check box on each message posted.
keep it anonymous
each message could then have a swing-o-meter type thing showing what the general consensus was on that particular piece of advice.

a banner could be applied to the top 10% or 20% of people when you average the total scores over the last 100 posts or 30 days.

make the banner understandable like
Good quality advice
or something similar?
 
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There is something similar to that available.

Where the original poster simply selects the answer they found most helpful, and that one is displayed first to others coming to read the thread.

It's common on developer forums where there are 2 dozen ways of doing the same thing.
 
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I think the thing to remember is; a member who's advice is good all the time, earns respect by default and perhaps doesn't need a tag.

And a newbie coming on for the first time will respect those who help them out and treat them with respect.

Somebody 'earning' something on a forum has had its day I think, personally. If I were to start a forum today in 2019, I'd have no post figures showing and no banners or tags. All just content sharing. The odd like.

Not sure if it'd work mind. lol
 

James the Spark1976

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There is something similar to that available.

Where the original poster simply selects the answer they found most helpful, and that one is displayed first to others coming to read the thread.

It's common on developer forums where there are 2 dozen ways of doing the same thing.
Wow, I didn't know that.

Just out of interest, what % of original posters click that button?
 
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Wow, I didn't know that.

Just out of interest, what % of original posters click that button?
Not sure: Newest Questions - https://stackoverflow.com/questions
There's one example.

You need to dig around to find a busy thread. There's a lot of duplicate stuff.

I was on this thread earlier today: The storage engine for the table doesn't support repair. InnoDB or MyISAM? - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10377334/the-storage-engine-for-the-table-doesnt-support-repair-innodb-or-myisam

The answer had 22 up votes. The OP selected it also.

They don't advertise that as a forum though. It's a "public Q and A". So there's no atmosphere at all. But it's not cliquey that's for sure.

Edit: actually the OP selected the post below the one with 22 up votes. Quite confusing the first time you see it maybe. That seems to have up and down votes. It's not easy to follow but when you're looking for an answer and you end up there, the posts have awesome content - linking to other threads of the same, quoting authors of books, doing calculations etc.

But I can't remember a single persons name who's content I've used.

And I guess that's the difference. I look for the content, not the poster and then go around looking for their posts. That's unnatural.
 

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My tuppence worth is it should remain. It helps anyone coming onto the site make an informed decision as to whether the replyer knows there stuff and can they trust there replies to be accurate and knowledgable.

I can assume respected members are those that have shown knowledge by giving good advice over the years.

I think it may be a bit of a kick in the teeth to those members who have achieved this status.

There are many very knowledgable peeps on this forum. A lot more knowledgable than me which keeps me interested and I am able to trust any advise they give.

I know who they are, but new members or visitors to site don’t. I don’t see it as a status symbol. It’s a guide to visitors to site.

I would say there are a few on this forum who should be given the respected member status that don’t have it now.

The only reason I can think you would want to remove it is maybe it is believed that a few of those respected members have fallen from grace by giving bad advice or acted in a manor not becoming the ethos of the forum. i Don’t know.
 

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I personally could not care less what titles are thrust upon me. I had about 4 or 5 at one point when the forum changed over recently, and had none when I joined. It doesn't matter to me one bit to wear a badge, but it is nice to know that my involvement in the forum over the years is noted in some way, and I'm sure all respected members would agree.

Some titles have uses. It's obviously important for everyone to know who admin and mods are, and knowing who mentors and trainees helps with responses.

Does respected member or arms member have any relevance ? Not for me to say as I don't know the mechanics of the forum behind the scenes.

Could it matter to new members to know that the info they are being given is coming from a person who has been given official respect for the quality of their advice ? Possibly, but you'd have to ask them.

Does it sound cliquey to new members ? As above, you'd have to ask them.

Does the badge exempt that member from following rules ? Clearly the rules are enforced by staff equally across members as recent events have proved.

And a newbie coming on for the first time will respect those who help them out and treat them with respect.
This is so often not the case, badge or no badge.
 

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I think it might be useful to have some form of indication for new members as to who is giving regular good advice.
I have not been here for that long and it has taken some time for me to get my head around who is who and how good there advice is.

most new members will have to spend quite some time understanding who gives good advice, often by reading other threads that they may not understand themselves.
but I think it should be fluid, i.e. you don't get awarded a title for life, if over the last ……..period your peers have voted your post as good then a badge for that would be a good indication that the advice lately given is both good and current.
 
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