Help!!! Can't turn electric off!!!

[Madocks]

Any solar panels?

 

[littlespark]

Good idea, @Madocks …. although its unlikely, its feasible.

 

[Squid]

That bell wire is a sight to behold......... as well as the vertically installed sockets...........

 

[ferg]

One of the breakers looks as though it's been taped over in the off position.

 

[Rpa07]

So many unanswered questions! I wonder if I go to bed I’ll dream of the answers -
I hope not!

 

[Doug81]

So are you saying you had the main switch (the big red one on the left) switched off yet those wires were still live?
There was never a socket fitted to that backbone, there's too much plaster, there's only one (new) cross head screw holding the back box to the wall also.
The red and black cables look like the outer insulation doesn't enter the back box (which also looks too shiny to be any thing other than new.

What's the large black box on it's side under the meter, is that grey T&E with white tape connected to it?

I suspect we're not getting the full story here.

The walls were skimmed

So are you saying you had the main switch (the big red one on the left) switched off yet those wires were still live?
There was never a socket fitted to that backbone, there's too much plaster, there's only one (new) cross head screw holding the back box to the wall also.
The red and black cables look like the outer insulation doesn't enter the back box (which also looks too shiny to be any thing other than new.

What's the large black box on it's side under the meter, is that grey T&E with white tape connected to it?

I suspect we're not getting the full story here.

The walls were recently skimmed with the socket fronts unscrewed from the wall, that's why there is excess plaster in the corners. See close up pics....hope this explains more??

 

[Doug81]

What type of testers are you using ? Have you considered that you may be getting ghost voltage ?. If you do not know about ghost voltage ? Google it.

One of those screw drivers with the LED on it!??

 

[Doug81]

It's all back on now but I switched the main red one off on the left. What do you need to see in the pic?

The red and black there is still live when the fuse board is turned off?
You have a serious problem.

How did you test that? Sore fingers?

Can you post a photo of your meter and fuseboard set up. There might be a clue as to what is wrong.

Can you safely protect those live cables from accidental touching?

How did a socket fit on that box with all that plaster taking up the top right corner?

Anyone in Nottingham up for a late night Saturday night callout?

 

[SparkyChick]

The box under the meter may be a bell transormer that could (if the labelling is correct) be connected to the MCB that is taped off.

If, with the main red switch in the off position, the cables coming out of the wall are still live, then you should seek the services of a competent local electrician immediately.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Says British Gas on it.

 

[SparkyChick]

Says British Gas on it.

It also says Friedland 7?2 on it and has small CSA T+E in one side and low voltage signal cable on the other. I think it's just been a convenient place for BG to stick their sticker.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Maybe BG are branching out?
New boilers and doorbells R us.

 

[Doug81]

The box under the meter may be a bell transormer that could (if the labelling is correct) be connected to the MCB that is taped off.

If, with the main red switch in the off position, the cables coming out of the wall are still live, then you should seek the services of a competent local electrician immediately.

Any solar panels?

Nope

 

[Doug81]

One of the breakers looks as though it's been taped over in the off position.

Old door bell

 

[Deleted member 105166]

Doug, as has already been stated, you need the services of an electrician, with the knowledge and equipment to test, safe isolate and remedy. A neon screwdriver is not that equipment. Please leave well alone, ensure no one can touch what *may* be live and call a sparks first thing Monday morning.

 

[Allan Stoddard]

I'm just wondering why there's a red and brown wire coming from the service head going to meter and why is there a grey sheathed cable into the earth Henley block? Where does that go?

 

[Dunc N]

Is the first photo of the sunken back box located on a party wall?

 

[Doug81]

No external, near the electric meter

 

[BruvDunk]

From what you’ve found the above advise to get a skilled Electrician in is required. What else is wrong with other parts that you can’t see ?

For the safety of whoever lives there it obviously needs checking over.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

@Doug81 - perhaps you can update the forum with what progress you've made over the past week, given that you've received lots of good advice and a potentially very dangerous situation existed.