Hi Tuff Cable

[Midwest]

Read a thread a couple weeks back about using Hi Tuff cable for outside lighting. I'm quoting for some outside lights, on a south facing wall. Thinking of using Hi Tuff, but never used it before and only gonna need about 25m, so doubt I'll be able to get it in such small quantity from my wholesalers. Is it called Hi Tuff or NYY-J, or are they the same thing. I'm having trouble sourcing some from reputable on-line supplier (that sells it by the metre).

 

[andyb]

Most wholesalers should cut it for you Midwest, My local one does.
Have you tried TLC if you prefer on-line, I'm sure they sell by the metre.

 

[Midwest]

Can't see it on TLC, seen something on the net that they've stopped selling it? I'll try locally.

 

[andyb]

Try this link

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Cable_Index/NYY/index.html

 

[Midwest]

Take it the Hi Tuff & NYY are just brand names?

 

[andyb]

Take it the Hi Tuff & NYY are just brand names?

As far as I'm aware, that's how I understand it. Not 100% if there's a difference but my wholesaler has not given me HiTuff for a while now, when I ask I get NYY-J.

 

[Midwest]

Cool. I hear its a bit of a bitch to use in cold weather. Guess best to warm it up on the radiator before installing! Cheers Andyb

 

[Andy78]

I believe Hi tuff is a brand name and NYY-J is a cable descriptor much like SY, YY, 6242Y, etc

 

[Octopus]

I bought a reel of 50m just yesterday - and most times I use it, I don't bother with cable clips I use SWA cleats - far better

 

[Risteard]

Hi-Tuff is widely used over here. It can be a bit of a pain to strip though.

 

[NDG Elecs]

I order NYY from TLC usually as local wholesaler does not do it. They only do the clear sheathed stuff which would look carp. I like NYY, nice cable to work with except when it's freezing outside. Then it's a right pig

Edit: just saw #7 Mid. Yep not easy to get nice bends when it is really cold.

 

[ruston]

Can't see it on TLC, seen something on the net that they've stopped selling it? I'll try locally.

I was just prompted to have a look, Amazon do it.
Free delivery too.

PS. 30 mtrs 1.5 3 core £25. 49 delivered free.

 

[Midwest]

Cheers ruston, tlc do sell, just looking at the wrong name for the product. But the Amazon price is good.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Most wholesalers should cut it for you Midwest, My local one does.
Have you tried TLC if you prefer on-line, I'm sure they sell by the metre.

Yes - I think they do.

 

[Geordie Spark]

If I ever get round to it I'll be using some to get leccy to my garage at the bottom of the garden.

I'm planning to fly it on stainless steel catenary with one end fixed to the house & the other about 5 metres up a scaffy pole planted in the ground.

It's not going to be used for anything more than a couple of twin sockets and a flourrie or two so I'm thinking 4mm should be enough - subject to Voltage Drop.

 

[davesparks]

Hi-Tuff is a draka brand name (they also make fire-tuff) for nyyj type cable

 

[ruston]

If I ever get round to it I'll be using some to get leccy to my garage at the bottom of the garden.

I'm planning to fly it on stainless steel catenary with one end fixed to the house & the other about 5 metres up a scaffy pole planted in the ground.

It's not going to be used for anything more than a couple of twin sockets and a flourrie or two so I'm thinking 4mm should be enough - subject to Voltage Drop.

I would bury it in view of....................................

 

[Geordie Spark]

I would bury it in view of....................................

If you mean the "P" word she's too short to reach a height of 5 metres, but she can dig a hole. :hump:

 

[7029 dave]

Have not used it in years, but liked the cable good for lots of situations. when out side I always used shrouds as well.

 

[R G]

I have managed to replace the flex into spike lights with NYY but I had to replace the stuffing gland to do it to a slightly larger size ,its good cable , the previous guy had used 3 core flex and buried it all over the place including some 30 amp joint boxes all under the soil and full of water , still the whole lot got replaced with NYY and new Y boxes etc and all clipped above ground and straight into the spike lights ....

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I do use eBay and Amazon for certain things but when it comes to cable I use my local retailer, I just don't think its worth saving £5-10 in this case as the cable could be coming from anywhere. Perhaps if its a well known company on Amazon with reviews from fellow electricians but otherwise not.

 

[LeeH]

What's the cable code for the XPLE version?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Read a thread a couple weeks back about using Hi Tuff cable for outside lighting. I'm quoting for some outside lights, on a south facing wall. Thinking of using Hi Tuff, but never used it before and only gonna need about 25m, so doubt I'll be able to get it in such small quantity from my wholesalers. Is it called Hi Tuff or NYY-J, or are they the same thing. I'm having trouble sourcing some from reputable on-line supplier (that sells it by the metre).

I have recently used quite abit of high tuff (NYY-J) and I didn't particularly like it. I didn't find it as easy to work with as H07-RN (less pliable), it was however cheaper than the H07-RN.

This is where I used to buy my cable from (kindly linked by Murdoch some years ago, thanks again Murdoch) https://www.electriccable.co.uk/ . The prices are reasonable, however I now use my local Wilts as they offer me good prices and excellent cusomer service, so it's probably best if you strike up a bit of a relationship with your local wholesaler.

 

[NDG Elecs]

I have recently used quite abit of high tuff (NYY-J) and I didn't particularly like it. I didn't find it as easy to work with as H07-RN (less pliable), it was however cheaper than the H07-RN.

This is where I used to buy my cable from (kindly linked by Murdoch some years ago, thanks again Murdoch) https://www.electriccable.co.uk/ . The prices are reasonable, however I now use my local Wilts as they offer me good prices and excellent cusomer service, so it's probably best if you strike up a bit of a relationship with your local wholesaler.

Am surprised you didn't like it HHD. Was it cold when you did the work per chance? I find the sheaths and insulation all strip beautifully easily when I have used it in the past, much easier than H07. Also as it is less pliable it is dead easy to get really straight looking runs across walls. If it was cold try it again in the spring mate, am sure you would feel differently about the stuff!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Am surprised you didn't like it HHD. Was it cold when you did the work per chance? I find the sheaths and insulation all strip beautifully easily when I have used it in the past, much easier than H07. Also as it is less pliable it is dead easy to get really straight looking runs across walls. If it was cold try it again in the spring mate, am sure you would feel differently about the stuff!

Probably right GO it was pretty chilly!

 

[NDG Elecs]

Probably right GO it was pretty chilly!

Try it again when its 15°C outside mate (maybe this weekend looking at the forecast!), it's lovely to work with. But, yes, orrible in the cold.

 

[Midwest]

Thanks for all the replies chaps, didn't use NYY-J in the end, didn't get the job!

 

[telectrix]

bet some idiot has gone in cheaper using 1.0mm T/E.

 

[Midwest]

Probably Telectrix.

 

[Octopus]

Probably Telectrix.

He wouldn't use 1mm T&E, more like 0.75 flex!

 

[Midwest]

He wouldn't use 1mm T&E, more like 0.75 flex!

Did explain to the client at the time. Wall for the installation, is south facing and pretty open. He wanted part of the run clipped just above dpc and garden border. Down to them.