Hi, im fairly new to this site and was wondering if anyone could help me out . . .

I've been asked to help someone wire up some free standing lamps similar to the one below, straight forward i know, but they then said they wanted more than the one shade/lamp on the one plug, if this possible, as if i use a wiska box/jb they would need to be fixed, and you can't get two bits of flex into a lamp holder. Hopefully the pic works below,

Any suggestions would be appreciated jelly-mould-lamp-web.jpg

Thanks

Alex
 
all joints must be made in a non flammable enclosure, be it wiska box,JB,or adaptable box,and the box should be secured to something,the choice is yours.
 
i think it's a fantastic dual purpose device. take the lamp out............ instant jelly mould. can you get them in strawberry as well as orange?
 
apparently so, including a bar/pub which is who has asked for multiple off of the one plug, so they don't have to go round the whole place turning them on and off, just want a few on the one plug for ease of turning on and off
 
all joints must be made in a non flammable enclosure, be it wiska box,JB,or adaptable box,and the box should be secured to something,the choice is yours.

This is what i ashumed, if they weren't then secured would i be liable for any damages? the only way of guarantee they were secured is to go and secure them myself.
 
This is what i ashumed, if they weren't then secured would i be liable for any damages? the only way of guarantee they were secured is to go and secure them myself.
not if you're just giving advice,advice is just that,advice.now if you were doing the job and didn,t secure them thats a different matter.
 
Its ok its a pub.. There will be beer up the walls in few days anyway

What 'classy up market' pub do you go to? My old local got closed down because the barman was selling 'coke' with his vodkas...

My new one not much better, permenant smell of pis$ everywhere and crap / puke all over the bogs...urinal and the dumpster.

And on writing that, im just wondering why i actually go in everyweek lol.
 
My old local used to be like that to be fair.. Now its been done out.. Well the bogs smell of domestics and the bar smells of paint

Mind you i worked away once and one bar i went to i asked where the gents were (Toilets that is) he pointed to a sign and a door. anyway went out and it was a yard with a big wall painted white and stunk off pee.. confused went back in and asked he said yes that the mens toilet just pee against the wall. Id of loved to see the womens
 
My old local used to be like that to be fair.. Now its been done out.. Well the bogs smell of domestics and the bar smells of paint

Mind you i worked away once and one bar i went to i asked where the gents were (Toilets that is) he pointed to a sign and a door. anyway went out and it was a yard with a big wall painted white and stunk off pee.. confused went back in and asked he said yes that the mens toilet just pee against the wall. Id of loved to see the womens

Haha. :rofl:

The only possible way to describe that is, sexy.
 
I find it funny how pubs love the air-con on in this weather, and the c/h on in the summer.

Same as bloody offices, when ive been doing bits and bobs around office staff in the summer i sweat buckets.
 
is that an old copper Jelly Mould ? should really have a brass lamp holder with an earth.

if that's to go on a plug I would not have more than 2 on it, and would put a 3Amp fuse in the Plug....

There are RCD/safety breaker plugs which will accept 2 flexes/wires and these are also fused, Google "Masterplug" and you will see them....they sell them in Screwfix as well.....about £7 each...
You can get Brass effect 3 core cable from B&Q which will look better...

Change the fuse to 3A(important)

Use Earthed Brass Lamp(Bulb) holder, you can buy these in B&Q(important)

Keep the length of the flexes/leads/cables to less than 2 and a half meters(250 cm) long....

And have them PAT tested in a local shop once they are made up...won't cost much...(very important)
 
forgot to add, if this is for a pub, I would not recommend it, as the flexes/cables could become a danger in a public area where they could easily be damaged by customers or staff, and children could access them easily and pull at them whilst playing...
 
I find it funny how pubs love the air-con on in this weather, and the c/h on in the summer.

Same as bloody offices, when ive been doing bits and bobs around office staff in the summer i sweat buckets.

Pubs put on the Air conditioning in winter to make you buy a "bracing drink" to warm you up...and in summer they put on the heating to make you buy a cold drink......food shops put the heating on in summer to make you buy cold drinks and the heating goes off in winter, or gets turned down to make you hungry and also to want to get back to the warm car fast, so you rush your shopping and buy more than you really want in your time there...as well as a snack to eat as soon as you get into the car...
Clothes shops put the heating on in summer to make you rush round and not really think as much about what you are buying, and in winter they turn the heating off to make you cold and rush around the shop with the same result...

Computer and TV shops very carefully monitor and manage their ambient temperature in order to make your time there as comfortable as possible so that you come to a buying decision for that £3000 "smart TV" and the £800 speaker package to go with it....plus some extra batteries for the remote @£6.99 for a four pack of AA ones...


Also shops use something they call "Planograms" in the industry, they carefully manage exactly where products are placed to a strict floorplan and shelf layout in order to pick out the best attention points to sell to customers using covert suggestive influencing and psychology....
The very most profitable items, even on supposed "special offers" go on the isle ends...

The supermarkets charge suppliers/manufacturers money to put them into better parts of the shops/stores, and also demand large quantities of free stock to sell on at a profit, and the suppliers buckle and submit to this because of the buying/selling power that the supermarkets have...

The less money off stock orders they give and the less lorryloads of free stock, the poorer the area of the shop/store their items get put into...its all greed...I have spoken to suppliers who always complain about the big supermarkets and the big DIY stores…


would just like to pop in my tuppence worth here....


if you buy made in the UK (by looking at the labels) then you are supporting manufacturers in Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales.....if I look at a "top brand name" and I see that they have shifted production outside the UK, I will then look at the supermarkets own brand label, if that says made in the UK, I will buy it...

it is these factory workers and these manufacturing companies that will be hiring our services and giving us work, not ones far far away.....and it is also helping prop up the economy here before any other manufacturers fold and close down, or get sold off to greedy foreign bankers and "investment instruments" and end up being closed and moved out to far flung shores with what sometimes amounts to slave labour...not to forget the profits being derived here on these shores being siphoned off to bank accounts abroad never to return...




just do what the Americans do, buy local.....they get away with it.....yet if we talk about it people complain ( the ones making the fast easy money do anyway)

I would tell you more but that would probably put me on some kind of list to be shrinkwrapped or something as the big players would probably get really peed off..



rant over :)


ok now the supermarkets will probably get me.....


Keel heem.....

(found upside down in a giant vat of 50% extra free yoghurt)
 
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there are many thing to take into account like cable length due to the longer the flex you wil get volt drop and the enviroment it is in and the size of lamps used i.e how many whats so correct fuse size is fitted and the circuit is protected by a rcd
 
Hi, im fairly new to this site and was wondering if anyone could help me out . . .

I've been asked to help someone wire up some free standing lamps similar to the one below, straight forward i know, but they then said they wanted more than the one shade/lamp on the one plug, if this possible, as if i use a wiska box/jb they would need to be fixed, and you can't get two bits of flex into a lamp holder. Hopefully the pic works below,

Any suggestions would be appreciated View attachment 16750

Thanks

Alex

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i would use klick ceiling roses that are fixed to a threw box with stuffing glands and your connections would be in the back of that no jb needed on a rcd plug with the correct fuse size for the load
 
not if you're just giving advice,advice is just that,advice.now if you were doing the job and didn,t secure them thats a different matter.

Unfortunately Advice can land you in court and cost you all your savings and your car+van....and then your house to sell to go towards your fines and any compensation they demand....and that's just the start....you could end up financially ruined for life and put onto a "do not associate " list by employers and suppliers having being beaten into taking the blame for an accident/fire.....also when they sell your house for something like 50p they will come back after you and put an attachment onto your future earnings and any estate that you inherit or are gifted, and possibly that of anybody with a "boundable financial association" i.e your wife's/long term girlfriend's money too...as they are taken by the "legal profession" to have created a bond of association with you...

Even joe public reading something on here, going off and trying to do it...causing an accident or otherwise,could if they had enough money ....attempt to pursue civil legal action against the message/post creator, and other individuals could try to instigate legal action based on the taking of "advice" it's the same as if a professional legal worker or person seen to the public as a financial adviser etc were to give an opinion...this suddenly becomes professional opinion, and is then if judged to be incorrect or inaccurate used against them, they call it "professional hearsay to detriment" and basically say that the person posting should have not done so as the general public will follow to the letter taking it as expert opinion and/or "free advice" which may lead to their detriment, for example financial loss,physical injury, even financial injury(as they call it) so if for example an accountant were to put on a forum about what shares might be good to buy, then the shares crash, the general public reading the post and taking it as advice could pursue legal action and might even be successful...


Always put a note to public readers that snoop around on here, and to non electrical individuals (i.e the general public and individuals who are looking to try DIY without a full understanding) that they should either A) not attempt it at all or (B) call on the services of a professional Electrical installer if they place a post on the internet asking for "advice or opinion" this covers the site as well as yourself if they decide that they want to create risk by attempting to undertake electrical works without training and experience...

Many people tell this to DIY'ers already on the forum as a helpful reminder.
 

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