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wildwest

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They got this new tester behind the counter at CEF, its a fancy looking MFT that says it does power quality analysis. Heres a link to the blurb.
So I haven't had any experience with TIS gear, to me the red and black makes it look a bit UniT MeterM8 ish but close up the thing looks quite good. Made in Italy. It's so new there are no reviews on the net, but there is one for sale half price at cash converters on ealing broadway.
Now I have a hankering to know what harmonic s to the 25th look like.
Should I keep on saving for a proper PQA. What does the wizdom of the mass mind have to say on the subject of TIS and fancy testers.
 

buzzlightyear

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for that price you has well go for a Megger then a fiat car.:rolleyes:
made in Italy .
 

MFS Electrical

Forum Mentor
They got this new tester behind the counter at CEF, its a fancy looking MFT that says it does power quality analysis. Heres a link to the blurb.
So I haven't had any experience with TIS gear, to me the red and black makes it look a bit UniT MeterM8 ish but close up the thing looks quite good. Made in Italy. It's so new there are no reviews on the net, but there is one for sale half price at cash converters on ealing broadway.
Now I have a hankering to know what harmonic s to the 25th look like.
Should I keep on saving for a proper PQA. What does the wizdom of the mass mind have to say on the subject of TIS and fancy testers.
Dunno looks good but why especially when you make spelling mistakes etc in your own promotion up to the 25! ? Maybe the 25th! ? And a hareness for hands free operation what’s that then? Most online scams can be spotted with poor grammar and bad spelling maybe they are good but if they can’t get their own website right maybe not:rolleyes: ps I’ve had tis test lamps for about 10 years now even ran them over with the van and they are still superb...
 

buzzlightyear

please let me back in to the prison cell.
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Italian cars are famous, some of them are quite good
a few years back the alpha romeroos were good at the time and started to look like a rust bucket after a bit .but would I trust a multi tester not heard about..no
Megger for me always ,sorry .
 

wildwest

Active EF Member
I asked for opinions so no need to be sorry Buzz.
My trusty megger has been retired since the casing started coming apart after a nasty fall.
tis test lamp rugged and still superb after 10 years, cheers MFS
 

spinlondon

Forum Mentor
My experience of Italian motorcycles and cars, is that the electrics are rubbish.
Would I buy an Italian MFT that’s more expensive than a Megger, Fluke or Metrel?
No!
 

MFS Electrical

Forum Mentor
I asked for opinions so no need to be sorry Buzz.
My trusty megger has been retired since the casing started coming apart after a nasty fall.
tis test lamp rugged and still superb after 10 years, cheers MFS
I’m liking the features on this but I’d still buy a megger any day of the week though...
 

wildwest

Active EF Member
It is the power quality analysis features that interest me. I've been looking for a PQA to study on, but justifing the cost of a new one when it may not earn its keep for a while. I've been looking at the chauvin arnoux pel103 as well.
This TIS being an MFT , I could use it for regular installation and maintanance jobs as well as probing the harmonics on PV and LED arrays.
So half of the cost replaces number 2 meter which is a bit sad with its casing split open after jumping off the high steps.
I hope to meet the TIS rep soon and see if they will let me have a proper go on it.
But I have a nagging doubt, the blurb says
" Power quality analysis of single-phase or balanced 3 phase systems".
I'm thinking I might be more concerned about what is going on in unbalanced 3 phase systems.
Imagine what the the chief will say were I to say we really need one of these to be sure of complying with 313.1 or 551.5.2

Kewtech KEW6310
Fluke 435
Megger MPQ1000

My mate had a Bennelli 900, it was pretty good.
 
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TIS pretend to be manufacturers of test equipment but basically they are just clever salespeople living on the back of other peoples designs and cheap imports. I find it somewhat misleading that they dont admit this. The instrument you are talking about is made by HT instruments in Italy and can be found here GSC60 tester or all electrical safety tests and Power Quality analysis | HT Instruments - https://www.ht-instruments.com/en/products/power-quality-analyzers/touch-screen-display/gsc60/

They just have it badged in their name, the rest of their range are poor quality Chinese imports that can be bought from this company 华盛昌 - http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/

There are only two UK manufacturers Megger and Fluke, the rest are sub standard immitations
 
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Steve Hayes

EF Member
TIS pretend to be manufacturers of test equipment but basically they are just clever salespeople living on the back of other peoples designs and cheap imports. I find it somewhat misleading that they dont admit this. The instrument you are talking about is made by HT instruments in Italy and can be found here GSC60 tester or all electrical safety tests and Power Quality analysis | HT Instruments - https://www.ht-instruments.com/en/products/power-quality-analyzers/touch-screen-display/gsc60/

They just have it badged in their name, the rest of their range are poor quality Chinese imports that can be bought from this company 华盛昌 - http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/

There are only two UK manufacturers Megger and Fluke, the rest are sub standard immitations

Gentlemen just to answer a few questions on here

1st of all TIS gear isn’t from China and bought from CEM we wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole, that’s who the likes of Dialog use

Secondly the TIS MFT Pro is a HT Italia Product and we’ve never hidden from that fact why would we it’s the Number 1 selling MFT Tester in Europe and our sells any Megger and Fluke so we’re proud of this.

Thirdly anyone that’s up on the 18th Edition will know there’s a New Amendment coming that require measurement of Volt Drop and Power Harmonics, the MFT Pro is the ONLY MFT Tester that has this capability
 

Steve Hayes

EF Member
My experience of Italian motorcycles and cars, is that the electrics are rubbish.
Would I buy an Italian MFT that’s more expensive than a Megger, Fluke or Metrel?
No!
Also to answer another question on Here the MFT Pro is Cheaper than its equivalents on Fluke and Megger so not sure where the pricing issue has come from
 
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Adam W

Steve I met one of your reps recently who gave me an idea of the prices; TBH for the price I'd rather go for a better known brand.
I appreciate they have a touch screen and might do things which other brands don't do, and the software is upgradeable so they can potentially do anything, but in the vast majority of situations I just need something which is going to do the required tests so I can write them down on a form.

Same with some of your other products, for instance a voltage tester which tests capacitance (something a domestic or commercial electrician rarely tests) for a similar price to the Fluke equivalent, and a network tester which will check a BNC cable but not RJ11.

I like that your company is pioneering new ideas, but for me to buy into an unknown brand I'd need substantial price incentives.
 
HT Italia will never be the top selling brand in Europe fact, Megger and Fluke have that market wrapped up. HT Italia testers have been around for years, they are slow inaccurate and unreliable. Electricians like Megger for its simplicity and reliability, many think Fluke is over complicated and hard to use , the HT Italia products are not user friendly for the type of everyday electrician who can’t be bothered to read a manual.

I still say TIS mislead the market with unsubstantiated claims about the quality of the products, they are great salesmen because they sell an inferior brand well but that is as far as it goes. Most of the other products are CEM or equivalent Chinese imports despite the posts above or maybe CEM copied the TIS1850 , I think not somehow

Multifunction Installation Tester with Bluetooth | CEF - https://www.cef.co.uk/catalogue/products/4182038-multifunction-installation-tester-with-bluetooth

DT-6650 - http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/Product/detail/id/912


Could you enlighten us with some more technical information as to how the meter calculates volt drop without the user needing to input cable type and length of the cable in the circuit under test or is the meter an expensive calculator
 

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