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basically, done a EICR for rental. 12 way wylex with 3871 MCBs, no RCD at all, so a few C2's and C3's. ideal world is a new CU with RCBOs, or even a dual RCD board. landlord won't pay more than necessary as it's a short term let and due to be demolished as soon as he gets planning for 2 houses on the land. upfront RCD would get rid of the "fails" on the installation, but 1 rogue circuit and the lot is dead. what would you do?
 

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Not that.

Either upgrade the consumer unit, as it could well be a long time before the property gets demolished, and the law is the law, and it cannot be let with C2s.

Or maybe (assuming RCBOs for this board are not available) run the circuits that need RCD protection through a separate enclosure with RCBOs in it.
 

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be hard enough getting the tight-arse to pay for an upfront RCD in enclosure. mention RCBOs and he has a heart wallet attack. the upfront RCD would get rid of the C2s so would make it safe for use, but non-compliant regarding division of circuits.
 

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I hate fitting dual rcd boards but if the property is to be demolished in a few months time I would be inclined to by a second hand rcd board off eBay and fit that as a very temporary fix

you can pick up a dual rcd board for about 30 quid second hand


your customer probably won’t like my Labour charge for doing it , but if it’s an easy swap then you can bill him half a day
 

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be hard enough getting the tight-arse to pay for an upfront RCD in enclosure. mention RCBOs and he has a heart wallet attack. the upfront RCD would get rid of the C2s so would make it safe for use, but non-compliant regarding division of circuits.
You asked what we would do.
If the owner is unwilling to pay to comply with a legal requirement, I'm off down the road to the next job...
 

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A completely different way of looking at it - One day when he has new houses built (which he claims is soon) he will need a new consumer unit with rcd and probably spd protection to get past building control. No reason I can see that it can't be removed and preserved when demolition occurs.
Granted the labour costs of a board change are higher than an up front rcd but he has to suck that up as he's a landlord and responsible for his tenants safety.
 

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If he wants his wedge of money for the rent then he should suck up what it will cost to make it compliant.

2 options in my mind, he pays for compliance or he doesn't rent out.

Option 3, which I suspect he would like to take, spend nowt, take a risk then blame someone else if it goes t**s up

Tel, walk away if he won't comply.
 
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