Replace shower - part p or not?

[Rockingit]

Reminer please as I've not been paying much attention to Part P changes - assuming that an existing install meets 2018 EICR 'requirements' - would a replacement swap of a faulty shower unit be notifiable works?

 

[Pauls0212]

nope, replacement does not need notification.

 

[Rockingit]

Presumably though if the circuit wasn't up to scratch - rcd/ratings/whatever then it would be notifiable after correction?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Work inside the CU requires notification I believe.

 

[Soi disant]

nope, replacement does not need notification.

It still needs to comply with Part P though.

 

[westward10]

Presumably though if the circuit wasn't up to scratch - rcd/ratings/whatever then it would be notifiable after correction?

I would say no even if you add additional rcd protection or changed the protective device. If you rewire the circuit or significantly alter it then yes.

 

[loz2754]

Work inside the CU requires notification I believe.

No. A new circuit, a new consumer unit, alterations or additions to any bathroom circuit. These are the only notifiable works in England.

 

[DPG]

It still needs to comply with Part P though.

But he's asking if it needs notifying.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Reminer please as I've not been paying much attention to Part P changes - assuming that an existing install meets 2018 EICR 'requirements' - would a replacement swap of a faulty shower unit be notifiable works

has long has it got a rcd on the line .

 

[Soi disant]

But he's asking if it needs notifying.

Replace shower - part p or not?

 

[loz2754]

Pedant! ?

I know the point you're making is that ALL electrical work in a dwelling has to be compliant with Part P of the building regulations, a point sometimes not fully appreciated.

But come on... you know full well the intended question was "is this classed as notifiable works, under Part P of the building regulations?".

 

[DPG]

I can't be arsed with this. Do we all have to check our posts now and make sure they are 100% accurate?

 

[Soi disant]

Pedant! ?

I know the point you're making is that ALL electrical work in a dwelling has to be compliant with Part P of the building regulations, a point sometimes not fully appreciated.

But come on... you know full well the intended question was "is this classed as notifiable works, under Part P of the building regulations?".

Yes, I do, but the conflation of Parts P and 3(12) of the Building Regulations ought to be resisted because it can lead to, as you say, a lack of appreciation that all electrical work in a dwelling has to be compliant with Part P.

 

[Soi disant]

I can't be arsed with this. Do we all have to check our posts now and make sure they are 100% accurate?

Depends what error % you think is OK.

 

[DPG]

Depends what error % you think is OK.

The OP clearly asks if replacement of a shower is notifiable. Why make hard work of it?

 

[westward10]

Yes, I do, but the conflation of Parts P and 3(12) of the Building Regulations ought to be resisted because it can lead to, as you say, a lack of appreciation that all electrical work in a dwelling has to be compliant with Part P.

It was quite clear what the OP asked let's not turn this into a ramble over what is Part P.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I can't be arsed with this. Do we all have to check our posts now and make sure they are 100% accurate?

Why somebody twisting your ear,
I have givvvern up on speal cheque. Lol

 

[buzzlightyear]

was quite clear what the OP asked let's not turn this into a ramble over what is Part P

What drammer queen's.

 

[Rockingit]

It was quite clear what the OP asked let's not turn this into a ramble over what is Part P.

Absolutely, and I'm now bored of my own post........

 

[littlespark]

“I’ve just changed a lightbulb..... do I have to notify under part P?”

Yeh, I know.... depends if it’s got additional protection.....

some may call it pedant...... I call it a pendant!

?

 

[marcuswareham]

Part P says any alteration to a circuit in a special location, surly replacing the shower is an alteration, so would be notifiable?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Is replacing like for like an alteration?

Sorry I have just done something I hate most on here and not answering the point, My point is I don't think it is an alteration and therefore does not need notifying.

 

[loz2754]

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Part P says any alteration to a circuit in a special location, surly replacing the shower is an alteration, so would be notifiable?

You're not altering a circuit, you're replacing a piece of equipment.
Keep reading the same page...

Non-notifiable work
2.7 Regulation 12(6A) sets out electrical installation work that is notifiable. All other electrical installation work is not notifiable – namely additions and alterations to existing installations outside special locations, and replacements, repairs and maintenance anywhere.

 

[marcuswareham]

You're not altering a circuit, you're replacing a piece of equipment.
Keep reading the same page...

Non-notifiable work
2.7 Regulation 12(6A) sets out electrical installation work that is notifiable. All other electrical installation work is not notifiable – namely additions and alterations to existing installations outside special locations, and replacements, repairs and maintenance anywhere.

Interesting,

I read that as replacements outside of special locations,

 

[littlespark]

I read it as replacement anywhere, including within special locations.

 

[DPG]

I read it the same - replacements anywhere do not need to be notified.

 

[7029 dave]

My take, like for like replacement not notifiable.