MK rapidfix, GAME CHANGER

[GBDamo]

MK have hit the market first with a lever connection based double socket.

I for one will be all over them as they are not too differently priced, £5.99.

 

[westward10]

Is it not possible to make green/yellow plastic, they have opted for green which I suppose does indicate earth whilst those cheap nasty inline connectors we have seen on here opt for yellow which doesn't indicate earth. Seems like a good idea.

 

[James]

Is it not possible to make green/yellow plastic, they have opted for green which I suppose does indicate earth whilst those cheap nasty inline connectors we have seen on here opt for yellow which doesn't indicate earth. Seems like a good idea.

it can be done.
it requires a special screw in the injection moulding machine (known as a marbalizing screw)
this is the sort of thing you end up with

RS PRO DIN Rail Earth Block, 6mm², 22 → 8 AWG Wire, Screw Down | RS

uk.rs-online.com

 

[westward10]

That's lime??

 

[James]

That's lime??

 

[telectrix]

about bloody time.

 

[littlespark]

I think I’m gonna cry. ?

 

[GBDamo]

Is it not possible to make green/yellow plastic, they have opted for green which I suppose does indicate earth whilst those cheap nasty inline connectors we have seen on here opt for yellow which doesn't indicate earth. Seems like a good idea.

Talk about hard to please.

Next time I'm stuck in a 300mm base unit sticking a double socket it I'll think "this a pain in the arse but at least I'm not using a green earth lever"
?

 

[ipf]

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Matches those smilies...

 

[ferg]

Poor Pete will faint when he sees these

 

[ipf]

Poor Pete will faint when he sees these

He'll be asking where the screws are in the connector block.

 

[LukeD]

Others brands will have similar soon and I can see a price war .These look good .But need to max out at £4.99 etc

 

[nicebutdim]

Pricing should drop to around the same as current sockets, provided they're widely adopted.

 

[pirate]

So many folks moan about how the quality is rubbish these days, yet also moan if a double socket is more than 2 quid...just saying

 

[mattg4321]

Personally I wouldn’t use them at double the cost of standard as the time saved wouldn’t be worth it in my opinion. Tightening up 3 terminal screws takes me seconds. The plate screws take longer usually.

Might be a different story in an awkward area I suppose, but still have the plate screws to contend with anyway.

If they come down in price to similar to standard I’d be happy to switch

 

[MrPupsi]

This is definitely a game changer for me.
Imagine all the broken ring circuits this would avoid from idiots over tightening the screw terminals.

 

[Mike Johnson]

The are the norm in France for as long as I can remember, but at about €13.00 each for a double socket, so count your blessings.

 

[nicebutdim]

So many folks moan about how the quality is rubbish these days, yet also moan if a double socket is more than 2 quid...just saying

Given the scale on which sockets are manufactured, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect decent quality for less than £5 per socket.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Ah but the French version do not have the third lever connector to accommodate the spur. ?

 

[nicebutdim]

Ah but the French version do not have the third lever connector to accommodate the spur. ?

That's what they get for leaving the EU ?

 

[ipf]

This is definitely a game changer for me.
Imagine all the broken ring circuits this would avoid from idiots over tightening the screw terminals.

There are some, yes, but more are caused by loose terms than overtightening.
The vast majority I find are with cables dropped out....not tightened or worked loose and plate forced back.
It solves both problems, though....as long as they are installed correctly. I wouldn't trust very many, even with levers, though.
'Throw 'em in brigade'.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Incidentally, I was at a job recently where the light switches had lever terminals. Slightly different design to these, press to release the conductor. Crabtree brand, and, according to the client, installed at the time the house was built, 25 years ago.

I guess we just weren't ready for them back then as they never took off.

 

[littlespark]

They’ve had push fit connectors in light fittings for around 25 years, so not surprising they tried with light switches.

 

[suffolkspark]

Quality of MK stuff isnt what it used to be so I'll be givong these a miss, I also pay £1.25+vat for schneider lisse double sockets which imo feel solid,and 3 terminal screws don't take long to tighten, still gotta do your plate screws anyway

 

[telectrix]

i'm going to give them a try. without actually fitting one it's like saying i hate rice pudding when i've never tasted it. (btw, i have and it's disgusting, would not feed it to the dogs).

 

[telectrix]

Is it not possible to make green/yellow plastic, they have opted for green which I suppose does indicate earth whilst those cheap nasty inline connectors we have seen on here opt for yellow which doesn't indicate earth. Seems like a good idea.

like wise, Megger and Fluke have not been able to make their earth leads in green/yellow. WTF cares. we all know what they are.

 

[nicebutdim]

Quality of MK stuff isnt what it used to be so I'll be givong these a miss, I also pay £1.25+vat for schneider lisse double sockets which imo feel solid,and 3 terminal screws don't take long to tighten, still gotta do your plate screws anyway

Lisse is a great example of decent quality at a very reasonable price - looks the part as well.

 

[Zerax]

The are the norm in France for as long as I can remember...

That's put me off 'em straight away... I won't be using 'em.

 

[littlespark]

The main reason I won’t use the french sockets is the funny shaped holes

 

[telectrix]

The main reason I won’t use the french sockets is the funny shaped holes

and why you don't date French women??? i knew a woman once, 1/2/English, 1/2 French. she used to shave 1 armpit.

 

[GBDamo]

and why you don't date French women??? i knew a woman once, 1/2/English, 1/2 French. she used to shave 1 armpit.

Was it one of yours?

 

[LastManOnline]

i'm going to give them a try.

Me too. Not specifically to save time (which they will), but because of the third terminal. Can be problematic to daisychain in some rewires as the existing wavin won't allow two x T&E. Now instead of the traditional daisychain radials, this socket gives the option of the "tree type" radial when circumstances require it. In reality "tree type" radials save on cable and lower FLI which is another bonus

 

[telectrix]

Me too. Not specifically to save time (which they will), but because of the third terminal. Can be problematic to daisychain in some rewires as the existing wavin won't allow two x T&E. Now instead of the traditional daisychain radials, this socket gives the option of the "tree type" radial when circumstances require it. In reality "tree type" radials save on cable and lower FLI which is another bonus

we all gotta save a tree. combat global warming and all that. but . if it's true, why is it colder in August than most Octobers? don't soundlike warming to me.

 

[freddo]

Got one of these sockets today, looks cool, different, but cool. Think I'm going to have to open it to compare the insides to a normal one.

 

[pc1966]

Got one of these sockets today, looks cool, different, but cool. Think I'm going to have to open it to compare the insides to a normal one.

We all want to see the results

 

[LukeD]

One of the issues with plates is always shallow back boxes ! Can they not be banned ? !! Given the chance I always fit as deep as possible. =Lights especially . Nothing worse than at a later date someone has to fit dimmers etc and are trying to cram all the cables into a shallow box.

 

[mattg4321]

You fit 47mm at all times?

Usually 35mm for me unless circumstances dictate otherwise.

 

[LastManOnline]

One of the issues with plates is always shallow back boxes ! Can they not be banned ? !! Given the chance I always fit as deep as possible.

Agreed. 25mm minimum for light switches. Can metal backboxes not also be banned? (ouch!). If 2 +1,s back boxes were available in pvc, I would never look at one again.

 

[WallaceP]

35mm standard, 47 for grid switches, cookers and showers. I keep a few 25mm boxes in the van just incase.

 

[ipf]

Agreed. 25mm minimum for light switches. Can metal backboxes not also be banned? (ouch!). If 2 +1,s back boxes were available in pvc, I would never look at one again.

OK in partitions but plastic boxes sunk in a solid wall would stink of cheap to me.
A good, solid backbox is a must, IMO.