Mandatory EICRs in Rental Properties - 1 year or 5 years

[trev]

You ever been to Byker?
Crikey that place is grim

 

[Geordie Spark]

You ever been to Byker?
Crikey that place is grim

Aye ..... there's a street called Raby Street & a pub called the Raby Arms. DON'T ever get bitten in Byker !!!!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

This proposal sounds like a good idea at first glance.
However it is fraught with problems.
In England & Wales there is no particular standard that an installation has to be constructed to.
Unless it is first a statutory requirement for an installation to meet the requirements of a particular standard, it will not be possible to require an installation to be inspected to ensure that it complies with a particular standard.

 

[somersetsparks]

Like Tony says , another way of of robbing and criminalising the general public, leave us alone please,
I have tested many properties most can pass a PIR (or EICR) and I would consider safe enough to let my own family live in,

There are many just causes in this world,
This is not one of them

 

[Spazz]

I have had the Welsh Housing Minister come back to me in regards to this:

He said he thinks its going to cost the landlords more than they are currently spending now



I need an idea of how much landlords/homeowners are spending on an annual basis when they are in crisis mode only


I am thinking about £300 - £500 depending on what goes wrong (per year)


I also have to state the annual cost of EICRs every year and MEICR every change of tenant
Im thinking:
£450-£500 - first year (New CU and MEICR (IR, Zs and RCD Test)
£250 - £300 - every year (EICR and MEICR

Any other ideas on this would be greatly appreciated

I am also thinking - this should decrease insurance policies (reducing risk of fire, electric shocks, etc)

 

[Geoffsd]

Oh, dear. :willy_nilly:

 

[Octopus]

Not sure I'd be spending so much of my time on this. If and only IF this came into force the drive by testers would be out in force and the resulting EICR's wouldn't be worth the paper they are written on.

 

[somersetsparks]

Any costs incurred would go straight onto the rent,
I am a landlord And my property is obviously well kept up together with gas and is to 17th, easy when you know how ey? Knowing my tennant, I would not Test this property again for 10 years, as they are careful, there is enough sockets not to need any extras, RCBO's etc.

I have a fair amount of testing experience probably nearing 1000 houses and I can tell you, other then DIY Disaster houses most remain in the same condition for years, it is just the DIY tennants which cause the issues,
and as has been said WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO PAY TO CHECK THAT IDIOT TENNANTS HAVENT MADE THE INSTALLATION HAZARDOUS?
If they modify it against their tenancy agreement that is their fault , and theirs only.

This is just another buearocracy waiting to be introduced, another hurdle to jump over and another way of criminalising the common man,

The fact is, even in the very unlikely event of someone getting a shock from dodgy electrics it is very rarely fatal, as has been said before, this is a very minor issue,
It does not need legislation, there are plenty of major issues for the government and the public to be dealing with.

You get good landlords and you get bad, this will cost the good landlords money - and the bad won't bother anyway

 

[Spazz]

Not sure I'd be spending so much of my time on this. If and only IF this came into force the drive by testers would be out in force and the resulting EICR's wouldn't be worth the paper they are written on.

You say that - one thing he did say is:

In terms of social housing, the welsh Housing Quality Standard provides for electrical lighting, wiring and power installations to be checked and certificated safe by an appropriately qualified person.

He also said:
I will be keeping a close eye on this issue in the context of future legislation.

 

[trev]

Nicholas, the social housing providers usually have a set maintenance programme which includes inspection and test. I grew up in a council house and remember them coming round.