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Wes1000

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If your part of a scheme then they will probably want you to have it.
It doesn’t take affect until January so you don’t need it until then.
 

Pete999

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HI ANYONE KNOW WETHER WE HAVE TO SIT AN UPDATE FOR THIS , IS IT MANDATORY ?
No need to shout Mate, I suppose to be compliant you will need to become 18th edition qualified, as it is with the 17th, I think some of the scamschools are advertising courses as we speak.
 

SJD

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What I find annoying is reading if you have 17th A3 then 1 day course, but if you are 17th but prior to A3, then 3 day course. What is that all about, apart from a scam to charge more for something I don't need?
 

Midwest

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If you are self employed & run your own business, I think its a given. If you're an employee its what you employer degrees, or future employer sees as essential qualification or not.
 

Midwest

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What I find annoying is reading if you have 17th A3 then 1 day course, but if you are 17th but prior to A3, then 3 day course. What is that all about, apart from a scam to charge more for something I don't need?
I think these particular 'courses' are all a bit of a scam. Its an exercise on how to use a publications contents & index, and a time set aside for an exam. There's no instructional content, the learning you have to do yourself.
 

Pete999

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I think these particular 'courses' are all a bit of a scam. Its an exercise on how to use a publications contents & index, and a time set aside for an exam. There's no instructional content, the learning you have to do yourself.
As you say Middy an excercisein how to navigate a books contents, plus how to pass an exam, no learning content whatsoever, they are a required element, as wellas being a licence to print money for the scam schools.
 

Murdoch

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It's an unnecessary expense given the minor changes ....
 

Midwest

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I wouldn't mind if they actually taught you something. When I did my 17th, I spent my own time reading researching, doing mock exams, before going on the course.

I know there's some on here who say its a walk in the park, thats not the point, still paying with hard earnt cash.

Not being funny :))), a JIB card requires you to do a H&S exam, not quite the same or in depth as BS7671, but no less important. Price £30 for a multi choice exam, and they will send you a booklet with all the questions & answers.
 

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From my own minimal research on the matter, the 18th comes out on July 2nd, but doesn't come into effect until 18 months later. That's January 2020.
You've got plenty time to get the qualification.

Theres a whole new section 8 been added. That's hardly a "minor" change.

It is not mandatory... but certainly advantageous to have.
 

Midwest

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From my own minimal research on the matter, the 18th comes out on July 2nd, but doesn't come into effect until 18 months later. That's January 2020.
You've got plenty time to get the qualification.

Theres a whole new section 8 been added. That's hardly a "minor" change.

It is not mandatory... but certainly advantageous to have.
The 18th Edition, are due to be published in July 2018 with the regulations coming into full effect in January 2019.
 

SJD

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From my own minimal research on the matter, the 18th comes out on July 2nd, but doesn't come into effect until 18 months later. That's January 2020. You've got plenty time to get the qualification.
Does this mean I can expect pass my ELECSA 2019 assessment without wasting days and money on a "course" and "exam"?
 

Midwest

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I've done some research on costs. If your lined up for a 3 day course, it's £395-495 inc vat, £127 for a boxset of books and God knows how much else on GN's.

They can shove it where the sun don't shine. I'm orff to work for B&Q selling CU's to the DIY'ers. Make a killing with all those AFDD's.
 

Wilko

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Does this mean I can expect pass my ELECSA 2019 assessment without wasting days and money on a "course" and "exam"?
Ha - my review is in Sept so I'll be promising to do it for next year no doubt. But I definitely won't be taking classes for it, I'll do one of the "on line" training things where you just show up for the the exam :) .
 

Wilko

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Does this mean I can expect pass my ELECSA 2019 assessment without wasting days and money on a "course" and "exam"?
Ha - my review is in Sept so I'll be promising to do it for next year no doubt. I won't be taking classes though, I'll do one of the "on line" training things where you just show up for the the exam :) .
 

mattg4321

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So how many people have their 17th Qualification in A3 flavour?

What a load of turd. So I have to do a 3 day course because I didn't feel the need to take a day off work and pay hundreds of pounds a couple of years ago for a small update.
 

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Gavin John Hyde

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well look at it this way... there will be a 6 month period where you can work to either the 17th or 18th edition, pass it quick and you can be the first guy in town working to 18th regs and charge more for your work... sell it as future proofing... give it a couple months and you will get nice shiny stickers on everything saying 18th compliant...
 

essex

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You need to donthis course if you wish to come across to your customers as a serious proffesional outfit.

It is a huge annoyance but it is just one of those things.
 

Martyn Fletcher

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well look at it this way... there will be a 6 month period where you can work to either the 17th or 18th edition, pass it quick and you can be the first guy in town working to 18th regs and charge more for your work... sell it as future proofing... give it a couple months and you will get nice shiny stickers on everything saying 18th compliant...

I get a sticker? :eek:

Sign me up... sign me up!
 

Phil Thompson

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I have 17 AMD 3 too.

Hoping the 18th is on over the summer or in Sept in the local college. But 1 day learning and a 1hr exam looks better than 3 days and a 2 hour exam lol
 

John tomo 1972

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I'm working to 17th A3 but just booked my 18th it starts July 18th till 20th and it cost £300 for 3 days but I got told that all sparks must have 18th by Jan 2019....don't know how true that is though
 

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I'm working to 17th A3 but just booked my 18th it starts July 18th till 20th and it cost £300 for 3 days but I got told that all sparks must have 18th by Jan 2019....don't know how true that is though
I take it the person who said that, was the recipient of your (or your companies) £300?
 

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