Honestly mate , lots of us have had it hard over the last few years , especially those who have to find their own work , quite a few guys have gone into other things or become specialised in order to pick up certain employed jobs , things are improving overall , but its not gonna kick in yet for us with all the foreigners around , on top of that the population is still wanting everything cheap , round myway customers are getting 5 quotes in on average , and when you quote £200 for a board change and you don't get it , and I've even had customers who want to come down the wholesalers with me or they've got the screwfix catalogue on the table when you go to quote , so its gonna be a while yet before we see anything like before ..