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For most of a recent barn conversion 1st fix we've been putting noggins in ourselves bang centre of the bedrooms etc. Then while not there the builders labourer put noggins in with central drilled holes where we'd wired for 4 bathroom downlights, then put the ceiling up.... Each point had downlighter written on the cables with a sharpie ffs.
 
Still use wood as plugs sometimes myself even now tel :)
So do I. However I discovered that a pack of bamboo skewers is really really useful - especially when working on old lime walls where you mostly can't get the hole to drill cleanly enough to tack a plastic plug. Saves all that whittling.
 
So do I. However I discovered that a pack of bamboo skewers is really really useful - especially when working on old lime walls where you mostly can't get the hole to drill cleanly enough to tack a plastic plug. Saves all that whittling.
McDonald's coffee stirers, always pick up a handful when in there.
 
At the risk of thread hijack ...
I was brought up with joists set into walls, so two sides of the room you could just go up/down between the joists, and the other two sides you'd use the gap between end joist and the wall (thumbs up to those builders that leave a useful gap there, and for those that don't/didn't - you b'stards).
No it seems that they insist on having a wallplate bolted to the wall, and the joists hung off that. So there's a 'kin lump of timber all along two sides of the room.
So what do people do these days, other than just avoid putting anything on those two walls ?
 
"used to light a fire in an old oil drum to keep warm "

LUXURY!
I were born in a cardboard box...had to get up 2 hours before i went to sleep...

I know...
I know...it's a brilliant sketch though!

 
So do I. However I discovered that a pack of bamboo skewers is really really useful - especially when working on old lime walls where you mostly can't get the hole to drill cleanly enough to tack a plastic plug. Saves all that whittling.
Always carry cocktail sticks on me van for rehanging old doors
 
You've been lucky then Ian1981
The major house builders have always had to do this Pete on the sites the company have had.
The only building work we carry out are core cuts for fans and drilling holes in the joists
 
The major house builders have always had to do this Pete on the sites the company have had.
The only building work we carry out are core cuts for fans and drilling holes in the joists
I can believe it Mate how times and practices change!!!
 
I can believe it Mate how times and practices change!!!
I’m on a school refurb where the builder’s price includes all chases, drilling out, core cuts and noggins, we just wire and install, cable basket/trunking etc.
Draw back is it’s labourers doing chases and they are useless.
 
I’m on a school refurb where the builder’s price includes all chases, drilling out, core cuts and noggins, we just wire and install, cable basket/trunking etc.
Draw back is it’s labourers doing chases and they are useless.
On the larger sites we used builder's labour to do the chases. problem was he was Deaf and dumb, so instructions were difficult to relay. We didn't know his name other than he was Polish, nice bloke we called him Deafy, for no other reason than not knowing his real name.
 
On the larger sites we used builder's labour to do the chases. problem was he was Deaf and dumb, so instructions were difficult to relay. We didn't know his name other than he was Polish, nice bloke we called him Deafy, for no other reason than not knowing his real name.
We have a guy called Costy, he gets called Costa coffee instead of his mates
 
My new build used noggins, with holes for cables. Lighting point with just sw line & neutral, live feeds at switches.

At the place I now work, it has suspended plasterboard ceilings. At each lighting point, a square of ply is positioned. They even placed them in portion walls, which is rather handy, when we’ve had to add extras, like paper towel dispensers etc.
 

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