Brexit. We’re out!

[littlespark]

We left at 11pm.... still tied to Euro time zones

Any differences so far? No. I’m waiting for Lidl to put up their prices.

And some people still think combining 2 words into 1 is very modern. Britain - Exit into Brexit... for example
Banoffee pie has been around for ages.

 

[Risteard]

We left at 11pm.... still tied to Euro time zones

Any differences so far? No. I’m waiting for Lidl to put up their prices.

And some people still think combining 2 words into 1 is very modern. Britain - Exit into Brexit... for example
Banoffee pie has been around for ages.

I'm sitting here approximately 1.5 miles from the EU.

 

[Strima]

Powers still on, waters still running and my poo flushed away. No change.

 

[JK-Electrical]

??Hooray! Yippee!! Bravo!!! Good riddance EU.??​

 

[telectrix]

Powers still on, waters still running and my poo flushed away. No change.

07.15 this morning, i watched out of the bedroom window in trepidation, but i need not have worriied.the sun still rose n the east and the darkness faded. phew!

 

[littlespark]

So, @JK-Electrical tell us what you think...

 

[telectrix]

here's what i thought:

 

[ruston]

So, @JK-Electrical tell us what you think...

I think he is waiting for the balloon to go up.

 

[buzzlightyear]

now we have left I'm now going to man the battle stations just in case the we jocks over the boarder decides to go it alone .lol .
wait a minute is we jimmy cranky ,AK Mr Nicolas sturgeon going to join the crackerjack team .

 

[littlespark]

Nicolas sturgeon going to join the crackerjack team

CRACKERJACK!

isn’t that what you do when someone says Crackerjack?
It was back in the Stu Francis days; “ooooh, I could crush a grape!”

I digress

It seems Sturgeon is now pushing for a referendum to ask if we can have another referendum???

Give it up, Nicola. You only got the job because your predecessor was a perv (allegedly)...

no.... stop it.... get that image out my head right now!

 

[electric al]

Please can we have our old wiring colours back and feet and yards etc before frexit kicks in

 

[buzzlightyear]

this made me laughing when the shackles were cut last night from the EU i wonder if the french where thinking we are going to flood the tunnel to watch the rats drown .

 

[pirate]

So far, in this thread, I am clearly in the minority.
however, as JK's strapline quote says:
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear. ~ George Orwell
Source URL: Brexit. We’re out! - https://www.electriciansforums.net/threads/brexit-were-out.182952/

I am sorry we have left, cannot condone the burning of the EU flag when the other members were dignified in their farewell gestures, and my show of friendship will continue to fly from my balcony!

 

[buzzlightyear]

try and swap it for a jolly Rogers hey pirate.lol.

 

[telectrix]

bit of luck the spanish armada will have to go back to fishing it's own waters now. a golden opportunity for pirate to raid without losing sight of his balcony.

 

[electric al]

Adieu, adios, aud wiedersehen ,ciao etc - or as Groucho Marx would put it, Go ! And never darken my towels ever again

 

[buzzlightyear]

hey pirate will you be buried on you balcony with that flag draped over your coffin or red white and blue or is it a sea one .or you could have vikin one it will a a flood of tommotos in stead of arrows.lol.

 

[JK-Electrical]

hey pirate will you be buried on you balcony with that flag draped over you coffin or red white and blue or is it a sea one .or you could have vikin one it will a a flood of tommotos in stead of arrows.lol.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

 

[Midwest]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

I was a remainer, don’t think it’ll be all that bad. Only time will tell.

Got to look forward, not back.

 

[FatAlan]

07.15 this morning, i watched out of the bedroom window in trepidation, but i need not have worriied.the sun still rose n the east and the darkness faded. phew!

Be careful up there Tel. Boris obviously has the interests of of the north at the forefront of his mind as he's sending all the returnees from China to quarantine in Liverpool!

 

[telectrix]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

sorry happy, had to give you a disagree. can't see anything bad from Brexit. this morning was loads of panic buyers in aldi, thinking prices would rise. 100 yards down the road, Sainsbury's have reduced fuel by 5p/L. we need to wait and see what happens, but I predict alll goood. and as a footnote.....

well done Boris. to boldly go where no man has gone before, with the guts to see it through.

 

[baldelectrician]

bit of luck the spanish armada will have to go back to fishing it's own waters now. a golden opportunity for pirate to raid without losing sight of his balcony.

Not a chance

People have short memories.
The UK government sold out fishing in 1970's to get better access for financial services, same thing will happen again

If there is one constant it is that Westminster will do what is best for London, the SE of England and the financial markets and to hell with the rest of the UK

That's why as a Scot i want out.

 

[Midwest]

Well we’ll really have to wait until 1st January 2021, to see what the queues at Aldi are like, and the price of fuel at Tesco’s.

I have a snicking suspicion that the EU will play hard ball again, on any trade deal etc.

Other wise they’ll have to deal with a Swiexit, Italiexit, Nexit etc.
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That's why as a Scot i want out.

You could always ask @pirate if you can stay on his balcony. I’m sure he won’t mind.

 

[baldelectrician]

So far, in this thread, I am clearly in the minority.
however, as JK's strapline quote says:
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear. ~ George Orwell
Source URL: Brexit. We’re out! - https://www.electriciansforums.net/threads/brexit-were-out.182952/

I am sorry we have left, cannot condone the burning of the EU flag when the other members were dignified in their farewell gestures, and my show of friendship will continue to fly from my balcony!
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I agree - people forget what the EU did (or made the UK government do)

• Scrap EU roaming charges
• Bring in the EHIC - giving all EU citizens reciprocal access to health when away in the EEA / EU
• Part time worker rights - holiday pay etc
• Cooling off period for phone contracts and many goods
• Appliances with plugs on them
• ATOL scheme to prevent money loss when a holiday firm goes bust
• Free movement (see hundreds of thousands of UK nationals in Spain)
• Scrap credit card charges
• Stop sites adding on extras (like insurance)

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Well we’ll really have to wait until 1st January 2021, to see what the queues at Aldi are like, and the price of fuel at Tesco’s.

I have a snicking suspicion that the EU will play hard ball again, on any trade deal etc.

Other wise they’ll have to deal with a Swiexit, Italiexit, Nexit etc.
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It's not about hard ball-
If we are in the single market and customs union then we get the benefits (as well as the perceived draw backs)

If we are not in we don't get it

What the UK wants is all the benefits of the EU without the obligations

A scnario:

Local Cricket club

Member : I want to opt out of the rules other members have or I may leave
Club: OK then

Later
Member : I want more opt outs and I want a rebate on my membership fee
Club: OK then

Member : We have voted to leave
OK : Give your notice

Member: Now I am out can I still get the benefits without any commitments?
Club : No- you cannot have your cake and eat it if you are not a member

We went from having the best deal in the EU to going to have a crap Canada + deal (with little or no services agreement)

The UK will still blame the EU anyway- why stop now.

 

[pirate]

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to sell people thongs they do not want to wear.
Sorry, JK, couldn't resist that!

Anyway, it seems I will have to pull my socks up if I am going to continue supporting the EU...

When I went out for dinner last night, the restaurant owner gave my table a free bottle of wine as a gesture of friendship. One might construe this as a bribe, of course!
Nevertheless, it was consumed in the spirit of cooperation...by me, as the others were driving!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

sorry happy, had to give you a disagree. can't see anything bad from Brexit. this morning was loads of panic buyers in aldi, thinking prices would rise. 100 yards down the road, Sainsbury's have reduced fuel by 5p/L. we need to wait and see what happens, but I predict alll goood. and as a footnote.....

well done Boris. to boldly go where no man has gone before, with the guts to see it through.

That's alright Tel. There's huge disagreement about Brexit (and that's fine) but the main thing is for people to still get on with each other

 

[Midwest]

I agree - people forget what the EU did (or made the UK government do)

• Scrap EU roaming charges
• Bring in the EHIC - giving all EU citizens reciprocal access to health when away in the EEA / EU
• Part time worker rights - holiday pay etc
• Cooling off period for phone contracts and many goods
• Appliances with plugs on them
• ATOL scheme to prevent money loss when a holiday firm goes bust
• Free movement (see hundreds of thousands of UK nationals in Spain)
• Scrap credit card charges
• Stop sites adding on extras (like insurance)

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It's not about hard ball-
If we are in the single market and customs union then we get the benefits (as well as the perceived draw backs)

If we are not in we don't get it

What the UK wants is all the benefits of the EU without the obligations

We went from having the best deal in the EU to going to have a crap Canada + deal (with little or no services agreement)

The UK will still blame the EU anyway- why stop now.

Roughly 50% of our trade is currently with the EU, and 50% ish outside. But trade is a two way thing, so these EU counties we trade with are going to loose out as well, if there's no deal; there will be one eventually.

Of course everyone seeks the best deal, its business. But if we sail off into the sunset, making a nice tidy some (if), then it will be the death knell for the EU. Thats why they will play hard ball.

PS How's your Spanish

 

[telectrix]

@ baldelectrician:

think back.
once upon a time we had a good deal going with new Zealand lamb and butter. once in the ECM that stopped, prices rocketed just to stockpile the products to subsidise french surrender monkeys.

we were promised the removal of tariffs, so we could buy goods from europe. smokes never came down in price to match europe. still cost 5 x as much as (e.g. spain). we never were allowed to buy abroad without paying huge import UK duty.

most of our fishing industry (and that affected Scotland worst) was decimated by allowing the frnch and spanish to fish our waters.

the NHS is swamped by freeloaders from europe courtesy of the eu.

there's more, but i can't be arsed.

 

[pirate]

Tel, I hear what you are saying...
we did once have a great deal on New Zealand lamb, and at the same time our own farmers were slaughtering their sheep and bulldozing them into huge landfill "graves" because we couldn't compete on price.
The Spanish buy our shellfish at a great price, which is good for us, but it's more than we are prepared to pay.
Markets are fickle.
On the up-side, smokes are still much cheaper here in Spain, as is the booze...but I won't be going to Magaluff anytime soon!

 

[telectrix]

our own farmers were slaughtering their sheep and bulldozing them into huge landfill "graves" because we couldn't compete on price.

greedy english farmers. how they could not compete on price with something that is shipped 12,000 miles is beyond me. just look at the price of lamb these days. eye-watering over £10/kg.

 

[littlespark]

Why buy nz lamb and ship it across the world? Last time I looked, we could grow sheep here. (Any Welshman want to confirm that?)

We don’t know what’s going to happen. And whatever does happen, we don’t know if it would have been better or worse if we stayed in anyway.
The result didn’t go the way I personally voted, but I’m not going to waste time demonstrating on the streets or burning flags or whatever.
As long as we don’t end up being the 52nd state of America, we’ll be fine.

 

[telectrix]

what happened to the 51st state?

 

[littlespark]

Isn’t there 51 just now?
What do I know? If I’m stuck I’ll ask a professional geography teacher

 

[telectrix]

there are 50 stats in the USA Hawaii being the last one the 50th. that's where the TV prog . got it's name ... Hawaii 50. think the 49th was Alaska. hence the gold rush guys called the 49'ers.
if you look at the American flag, there's 13 stripes for the original 13 states, and 50 stars for the existing. back in the days of WWII, there were 48 stars,

 

[static zap]

Last time I looked, we could grow sheep here.

There was that time when Russian nuclear fallout from "That" reactor spoilt things,
(and may even be a reason for some of EU to run here !)
...not much engineering going on to make pollution... Farming here we come !

 

[7029 dave]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

I voted out for my children and grandchildren, alas all too bloody late.

 

[Darkwood]

So far, in this thread, I am clearly in the minority.
however, as JK's strapline quote says:
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear. ~ George Orwell
Source URL: Brexit. We’re out! - https://www.electriciansforums.net/threads/brexit-were-out.182952/

I am sorry we have left, cannot condone the burning of the EU flag when the other members were dignified in their farewell gestures, and my show of friendship will continue to fly from my balcony!
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Respect to both sides of the conversation but you brought up a very relevant problem with the EU, it was no longer a trading body, it was turning into an empire that the voter had no control of, a trading body does not have a national anthem if it's not a wannabe nation nor does it have a national flag, although the burning of that flag was just a select random few people it seems that stigma has been attached to any brexiteer, let me clarify that you cannot paint the masses with the acts of a few that the biased media who put this to the public with the same paint brush, maybe you should be attacking the media here and not those who voted in general for brexit.

 

[Vortigern]

What the UK wants is all the benefits of the EU without the obligations

Indeed and why not? People have not forgotten anything on your list. There is more to consider than those benefits, if they can really be called that. The price of those benefits is to have an unelected bureaucracy and ceding of powers to foreign entities with the attendant loss of sovereignty. Too higher price in my opinion, for mere baubles in fact. Something like the Island of Manhattan being traded for a case of whisky and beads.
That same sovereignty that decided with an overwhelming majority to vote for a parliament that would enact the will of the electorate recently. Don't misunderstand this I am all for trade with any country that will enrich us. I just don't want to live under unaccountable, unelected and spendthrift miscreants.

 

[Darkwood]

I'll just add here that Canada and Japan were given 90% of the benefits without the obligations, the uk trades 10 times more than either of these countries, the Idea that the EU would punish us while we now have such a strong hand is simply ridiculous, yes we will see the same rhetoric and predictions all from globalism sources but you just need to look at the last 3 years to realise none of it ever came true ... the cornerstone of most of the remain camp arguments in the early days... seems they still haven't learnt any lessons and follow pollsters that have repeatedly predicted wrong.