Connecting a wireless thermostat to a glow worm boiler

[SparkyChick]

Actually, scratch the brown tape, just re-read the picture... the thermostat connections in the boiler are 24v so don't need it.

 

[SparkyChick]

If you don't fancy doing it, PM me, I'm just down the road in Marshfield.

 

[mark bowen]

You unit is going to need a power supply (line, neutral and earth). Regarding the link in the boiler (that you've shown in another picture) connect 3 and 4 on the new device to the terminal block with the link in it (removing the link as you go) and you should be good to go.

I might be inclined to use some 5 core cable (custom made you might say for this as you can use brown, blue and yellow/green for the L, N and earth). You should sleeve the conductors you use to connect the link terminals with brown tape.

Thank you I appreciate that

 

[mark bowen]

Actually, scratch the brown tape, just re-read the picture... the thermostat connections in the boiler are 24v so don't need it.

 

[SparkyChick]

Ahh.. ok, sorry confusion... thought the pic was from your boiler but clearly not. Need page 12 of the boiler manual by the looks of it.

 

[mark bowen]

Can’t seem to find page 12 that tally’s up

https://www.glow-worm.co.uk/glow-wo...-installation-manual-0020206373-03-685060.pdf

 

[SparkyChick]

Bottom right of page 14 in that file you linked above... Conditions for 230v controllers. Sleeve cores with brown tape (at both ends) and connect as shown in that diagram to terminals 3 and 4 of the thermostat receiver and you should be good to go.

 

[mark bowen]

Bottom right of page 14 in that file you linked above... Conditions for 230v controllers. Sleeve cores with brown tape (at both ends) and connect as shown in that diagram to terminals 3 and 4 of the thermostat receiver and you should be good to go.

Top man .

 

[Corbs]

Gas safe guidance....

https://www.---------------.co.uk/media/1449/who-can-legally-work-on-a-gas-appliance-factsheet.pdf

Providing you don't break a combustion chamber seal you can remove the cover of a boiler, and from what I understand there aren't many boilers in the UK where you would need to break a combustion chamber seal for wiring purposes.

please read it again carefully as the seal is the cover,

only time you or the customer can remove the cover is when it a Decorative casing: These cases can usually be removed by the consumer e.g. can be lifted off or are
hinged panels and do not need to be unscrewed.

 

[Corbs]

Bottom right of page 14 in that file you linked above... Conditions for 230v controllers. Sleeve cores with brown tape (at both ends) and connect as shown in that diagram to terminals 3 and 4 of the thermostat receiver and you should be good to go.

 

[Spoon]

No worries . Seems this forum is more about an ego boost for the members more than anything else . atb

It was about forum rules mate and you not confident about wiring mains to a device. No ego involved.
Your comment has now got you what you require so all is good.

 

[Corbs]

It was about forum rules mate and you not confident about wiring mains to a device. No ego involved.
Your comment has now got you what you require so all is good.

but in terns invalidates his home insurance etc

 

[SparkyChick]

Bottom right of page 14 in that file you linked above... Conditions for 230v controllers. Sleeve cores with brown tape (at both ends) and connect as shown in that diagram to terminals 3 and 4 of the thermostat receiver and you should be good to go.

@Corbs , just curious why you disagree with this. The bottom right of page 14 of the document he linked does provide details of how to connect a 230v controller.

please read it again carefully as the seal is the cover,

only time you or the customer can remove the cover is when it a Decorative casing: These cases can usually be removed by the consumer e.g. can be lifted off or are
hinged panels and do not need to be unscrewed.

I have re-read it, and I believe I did state that you can remove the cover providing you don't break a combustion chamber seal. How is what I've said incorrect because as far as I can tell, you're saying the same thing.

It was about forum rules mate and you not confident about wiring mains to a device. No ego involved.
Your comment has now got you what you require so all is good.

It wasn't his comment that got him some guidance. I don't believe I have provided a step-by-step guide on how to do it, just pointed him in the right direction which is what he initially wanted. I would consider a step-by-step guide to be far more detailed. But I'm open to a discussion about it and I'm not afraid of making a mistake and being corrected by staff with more experience.

 

[mark bowen]

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Worked a treat cheers mate

 

[Corbs]

@Corbs , just curious why you disagree with this. The bottom right of page 14 of the document he linked does provide details of how to connect a 230v controller.



I have re-read it, and I believe I did state that you can remove the cover providing you don't break a combustion chamber seal. How is what I've said incorrect because as far as I can tell, you're saying the same thing.



It wasn't his comment that got him some guidance. I don't believe I have provided a step-by-step guide on how to do it, just pointed him in the right direction which is what he initially wanted. I would consider a step-by-step guide to be far more detailed. But I'm open to a discussion about it and I'm not afraid of making a mistake and being corrected by staff with more experience.

In short you've advised someone to break gas safety laws and sounds like you've broken them in the past also

You have to remove screws to remove the cover which makes it a combustion seal not a decorative cover

 

[SparkyChick]

I think I was quite clear... you can remove the cover from a boiler providing you don't break the combustion chamber seals. Is that or is that not what I said?

Is that or is that not the guidance from Gas Safe regarding who can do what on a boiler?

In terms of what I have done... yes, I have taken the cover off a boiler... my own because the gas guy who serviced it one time left an 1/8" gap down the one side where he couldn't put the cover back on properly. How do I know it wasn't on properly because there was a draft blowing through it.

 

[Corbs]

I think I was quite clear... you can remove the cover from a boiler providing you don't break the combustion chamber seals. Is that or is that not what I said?

Is that or is that not the guidance from Gas Safe regarding who can do what on a boiler?

In terms of what I have done... yes, I have taken the cover off a boiler... my own because the gas guy who serviced it one time left an 1/8" gap down the one side where he couldn't put the cover back on properly. How do I know it wasn't on properly because there was a draft blowing through it.

The ops boiler to get at the electrical connections you need to break the combustion seal

Also how does the op know what type of seal / system his boiler is, you just need to be mindful in the future giving out wiring info boiler side

Only wiring you can do is on a decorative case e.g. Don't need to remove any screws to remove the cover eg they normally lift off

 

[Corbs]

@suffolkspark

You may think it's a dumb rule but it's the law / regs you can disagree with me all you want but it's the law / regs

 

[SparkyChick]

The ops boiler to get at the electrical connections you need to break the combustion seal

Also how does the op know what type of seal / system his boiler is, you just need to be mindful in the future giving out wiring info boiler side

Only wiring you can do is on a decorative case e.g. Don't need to remove any screws to remove the cover eg they normally lift off

Now I can see your point and why I got a disagree, but it was a little too cryptic for me because I just thought you'd engaged super pedant mode and were picking my words apart.

A better approach may have been to simply state this outright, tagging the OP in as well.

 

[Corbs]

Now I can see your point and why I got a disagree, but it was a little too cryptic for me because I just thought you'd engaged super pedant mode and were picking my words apart.

A better approach may have been to simply state this outright, tagging the OP in as well.

Np guess I should of said you have to remove screws

If you look at my pic again that I posted you will see you have to remove two screws bottom left and right to remove the cover

Not trying to be a pita