Dam speed camera van (robbing *******s)

[tonto33]

speed camera van was on a47 in layby had yellow light flashing on roof and in front of it was a broken down lorry with cab up so thought it was breakdown for the truck till got closer and found out it was speed camera van.. Dam!
yeah i know shouldn't speed but forgot in van speed limit is lower than car

 

[NickD]

Is your van classed as a car-modified van design and if so does it help? Got a feeling the lower speed limits only apply to van-vans and not vans which are considered modified variants of cars.

 

[dan86]

I feel for you mate.
sort of.
you knew that you were in the wrong and seem to accept that.
presumably you got points and no prizes?
I got a ticket for the very same thing a while back.can't remember when exactly but made a post about it.

 

[efficiencyman]

I had similar speed cam van "hiding " behind a Luton van in a layby, Dual carriage way 40 MPH for 40 years that I knew of, until a few months back they changed it to 30 MPH after owning up to being the driver with no mitigating circumstances allowed. The tiny new signs were not displayed prominently the gun got me for doing 40 MPH not pulled over, some weeks later received a £95 fine plus 3 points, or choose only other option of a national speed awareness curse of £95 which I do this Sat. 3 months after the contrived event. I have it all recorded on my cab CCTV they do not allow me to show how unjust it is, just another revenue tax on my van ?

 

[gnuuser]

speed camera van was on a47 in layby had yellow light flashing on roof and in front of it was a broken down lorry with cab up so thought it was breakdown for the truck till got closer and found out it was speed camera van.. Dam!
yeah i know shouldn't speed but forgot in van speed limit is lower than car

I feel for you mate.
got pulled over the other day
was distracted by the damn gps giving the wrong info and didn't see the speed limit sign
he actually laughed when i asked him to shoot the damn gps unit
anyway the trooper let me off with a warning and the proper directions

 

[NickD]

speed camera van was on a47 in layby had yellow light flashing on roof and in front of it was a broken down lorry with cab up so thought it was breakdown for the truck till got closer and found out it was speed camera van.. Dam!
yeah i know shouldn't speed but forgot in van speed limit is lower than car

As I say check out whether you've really broken the lower-for-vans speed limit if your van design is based on a car.

Various conditions have to be met before you are obliged to pay the fine. One is that the NIP (Notice Of Intended Prosecution) has to arrive within some period of the alleged offence - think it might be 14 days - and they have to be able to demonstrate they have served it on you, which in practice means sent Recorded Signed For and a signature obtained. Dunno about your postie but mine often just shoves Recorded Signed For stuff through with the rest of the post without obtaining a signature.

Don't know what happens if you and your household refuse to sign for a Recorded Signed For item. Maybe the postie is meant to report that fact somehow. Dunno. Can't think of a reason why you are in any way obliged in law to agree when asked to to sign for an item of post.

There are websites about this, well worth a look if you think you can be bothered to fight it.

 

[Guest111]

As I say check out whether you've really broken the lower-for-vans speed limit if your van design is based on a car.

Various conditions have to be met before you are obliged to pay the fine. One is that the NIP (Notice Of Intended Prosecution) has to arrive within some period of the alleged offence - think it might be 14 days - and they have to be able to demonstrate they have served it on you, which in practice means sent Recorded Signed For and a signature obtained. Dunno about your postie but mine often just shoves Recorded Signed For stuff through with the rest of the post without obtaining a signature.

Don't know what happens if you and your household refuse to sign for a Recorded Signed For item. Maybe the postie is meant to report that fact somehow. Dunno. Can't think of a reason why you are in any way obliged in law to agree when asked to to sign for an item of post.

There are websites about this, well worth a look if you think you can be bothered to fight it.

an NIP( NOTICE OF INTENDED PROSECUTION) may be served up to 6 months following the alleged offence,this is to allow adequate time to collect any evidence required for a prosecution.This is primarily for cases involving acts such as causing death by dangerous driving and other such serious crimes but applies in all cases,incidentally once the summons or FPN(fixed penalty notice) has been sent to the address of the registered keeper it is deemed in law to have been served,as it is down to the RO(registered owner) to notify a change of address.If the fine is not paid within 28 days then a warrant is issued for the arrest of the RO.

 

[NickD]

an NIP( NOTICE OF INTENDED PROSECUTION) may be served up to 6 months following the alleged offence,this is to allow adequate time to collect any evidence required for a prosecution.This is primarily for cases involving acts such as causing death by dangerous driving and other such serious crimes but applies in all cases,incidentally once the summons or FPN(fixed penalty notice) has been sent to the address of the registered keeper it is deemed in law to have been served,as it is down to the RO(registered owner) to notify a change of address.If the fine is not paid within 28 days then a warrant is issued for the arrest of the RO.

Yeah...looks like the interpretation of procedure may have change since I last had cause to look at this. Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP)

 

[pepparz]

i got caught on M1, im going to do the speed awareness course. do they lay on sandwiches or should i take some snap with me?

 

[telectrix]

take your own snap. it's a speed awareness course, not a holiday camp. 90% bullpoo. only saving grace is you don't get points on your licence and it won't affect your insurance as you don't have to declare it.

 

[jimjimjim]

Think the car derived van thing is under 2 tonnes, so wouldn't apply to most vans

Jim

 

[telectrix]

it is. under 2 tons laden gross weight.

 

[NickD]

it won't affect your insurance as you don't have to declare it.

You don't? Definitely?

 

[telectrix]

definitely, as it's not a conviction.

 

[Silly Sausage]

You don't? Definitely?

I'm not so sure myself as well, if they ask, you'll definitely have to declare.

Admiral hikes premiums for drivers who attend speed-awareness courses | This is Money

BBC News - Higher premiums for speed awareness courses

 

[NickD]

I'm not so sure myself as well, if they ask, you'll definitely have to declare.

Admiral hikes premiums for drivers who attend speed-awareness courses | This is Money

BBC News - Higher premiums for speed awareness courses

Insurance contracts are one of those rarities in law where you are under an obligation to disclose any material fact whether asked or not. Can't remember the term for it, it's Latin.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Nick, did you used to wear silk before you entered the electrical industry?
I've noticed you've made a few 'Legal' observations now.

 

[Admin]

I run this www.facebook.com/StaffsSpeedCams

We share locations in realtime.

Staffordshire is the county with the most speed SCAMERA vans. So we needed something to sort it out.

 

[Admin]

I'm not so sure myself as well, if they ask, you'll definitely have to declare.

Admiral hikes premiums for drivers who attend speed-awareness courses | This is Money

BBC News - Higher premiums for speed awareness courses

You don't have to declare, and it's wrong for them to ask too.
They tell you this on your course. It has no effect on your license or driving therefore no effect on insurance either.

The insurance firms are just trying to diddle you.

Admiral screwed my on a policy I was paying for when I'd sold the car 2 years ago. Cancelled the payments and they sent debt collectors. I've literally just finished after months screwing them for all the money they've taken without my permission. Cheeky sods.

I wouldn't tell them anything to do with an awareness course.

 

[NickD]

Nick, did you used to wear silk before you entered the electrical industry?
I've noticed you've made a few 'Legal' observations now.

Still do, but only down the nightclub on Tuesday nights.

I started retraining as a lawyer, got most of the way through a Graduate Diploma In Law then knocked it on the head.