New Gadgets or tried and trusted methods

[Silver6003]

Hi there so I'm Doing a Domestic Flat With a lot of Gu 10 led down lighters . bathroom ones being Ip44 and the rest fire rated . I've wired the lighting in conventional 3 plate wiring . So Feeds ,Switchline . Neutrals and pcp all at 1 light. Switch Line neutral and pcp looped in each room. Also both bedrooms I've run a feed cable to both wardrobes to operate wardrobe lights . So in some cases I've 1 ,2,3,4 and some cases 5 cables at lights . Of course 3 core to feed fan isolator for over run fans in 2 bathrooms . That's My scenario
So I'm a luddite in some ways .... If it works why break it Vibe . I've seen lots of new found products to connect them up Clix and wago with junction boxes etc . However My first thought was the tried and tested method of using 4-way junction boxes With 1.5mm2 heat resistant flex feeding each downlight .
I'm working on an hourly rate on this installation ( it was too complicated to put in a price already there's been alterations etc ) So time is not a factor
So Appreciate your comments. Even better, ideas if you have any
Thanks guys

 

[jeremy]

I find that a wago box with a SL/N to each fitting works well. This means investing in some wago boxes and connectors, but the amount of time and effort saved more than makes up for it. I've learned that there's some things that I just don't "get"; buying the cheapest, rather than the best that you can afford, sticking with old methods with known drawbacks, rather than trying new stuff to get around the drawbacks. Each to their own, but I see investing in such malarkey saves a lot of effort in trying to get 5 cables terminated safely. neatly at a light fitting.

 

[sam400]

I'd highly recommend Hager J501 JB for this situation.

 

[slingshot2000]

I'd highly recommend Hager J501 JB for this situation.

Yup, made for the job !

 

[Andy78]

I would recommend tailoring the wiring methods and accessories for each circuit to suit each other and the situation. Works for me.

 

[Midwest]

Too late now, but with downlights, always take feed to switch and then sw line & neutral to each light and loop in & out. Or perhaps Click flow CT102 for 3 cable loop in & out.

 

[jase]

I've used numerous items over the years, all have their merits, hager coffin boxes- great but screw terminals still, click flow plugs, screw terminals again, but also less room for cable, and no cable grip, quickest I've used are the line products egg things along with wagos, and cheapest but just as effective are the greenbrook choc boxes from screwfix with wagos inside

 

[NDG Elecs]

I always like to have a good few Hager Ashley and plenty of Wagos in the van. Both would be my weapon of choice. Used a traditional 30A JB the other week for the first time in ages and find them fiddly by comparison.

Not keen on the purple/blue click flow connectors due to no cable grip as mentioned. For your particular job I would normally use Wagoboxes.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I would of used deep boxes and fed the switch.

 

[Andy78]

I always like to have a good few Hager Ashley and plenty of Wagos in the van. Both would be my weapon of choice. Used a traditional 30A JB the other week for the first time in ages and find them fiddly by comparison.

Not keen on the purple/blue click flow connectors due to no cable grip as mentioned. For your particular job I would normally use Wagoboxes.

You can get the click flow connectors with cable restraint, its just that no wholesalers seem to stock them.

 

[7029 dave]

These just don't look up to the job, are they any good Guys.? I would just feel inclined to use the good ole JB. Space looks limited, guess it just fear of the unknown.

 

[NDG Elecs]

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These just don't look up to the job, are they any good Guys.? I would just feel inclined to use the good ole JB. Space looks limited, guess it just fear of the unknown.

I hope they are Dave, as I have used loads over last few years! A lot of the newer sparks definately use them. I find them quicker than trad JBs to install.

 

[7029 dave]

If I was still contracting then I would be able to see for myself, alas don't think will. New products come on market some look really good must say.

 

[davesparks]

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These just don't look up to the job, are they any good Guys.? I would just feel inclined to use the good ole JB. Space looks limited, guess it just fear of the unknown.

Horrible things with limited space. The Line eggs are much better

 

[Andy78]

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These just don't look up to the job, are they any good Guys.? I would just feel inclined to use the good ole JB. Space looks limited, guess it just fear of the unknown.

I personally don't like the wagobox. It's clunky and awkward to use. They are ok as a fixed accessible connection box however. The smaller wagobox lite is better as it has a cable entry each end but is obviously smaller.

 

[amlu]

trusted method? neutrals in the switch box, joined by a wago. less monkeying on a ladder to connect it all up and no problems with modern lights.

 

[NDG Elecs]

trusted method? neutrals in the switch box, joined by a wago. less monkeying on a ladder to connect it all up and no problems with modern lights.

Or could use Hager switches.

 

[NDG Elecs]

Horrible things with limited space. The Line eggs are much better

Granted they can be a bit fiddly and the cord grips are naff. I always leave the CPCs longer than the live conductors and then connect them up last (at the top of the box) and I find that makes them more workable. Never used the Line gear, was going to order some a while back and never did due to the stock issue posted on here.

Are Line delivering properly again now?

 

[Megavolt]

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These just don't look up to the job, are they any good Guys.? I would just feel inclined to use the good ole JB. Space looks limited, guess it just fear of the unknown.

Yes these are great.

 

[Midwest]

click flow plugs, screw terminals again, but also less room for cable, and no cable grip

As others have mentioned and one I posted about, the Click Flow CT102C has a cable grip; Click 20A 4Pin Pull Apart Flow Connector CT202C - Interior Lighting from Luma Lighting UK
Useful for when Mrs Miggins wants to replace her ceiling rose, with a new light fitting, in the living room.