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and it all just leads to people making money out of others' 'common dense'...….Hello Everyone
Does the Health and Safety at Work legislation apply to a self-employed person?
Answer this one as yes and you accept the need to protect yourself and those around you, your principal, duty of care.
Then you realise that making sure your tools are safe to use in your work is a responsibility you must Accept. As we know, the schemes and employers expect you to make an onsite Risk Assessment each time you arrive on a job.
Then, when you get into appliance testing, you learn that registers and logs are part of the management side and
a preliminary visual check and checking your cables for nicks are part of daily practice.
Regards
It's hard to answer this one with certainty. The Health and Safety at Work Act, The Using Electric Equipment Regs etc. make it clear that ALL electrical equipment used for work must be safe. That's everything from the mains supply transformer in the street outside, to the hand dryer in the loo. What is not quite so cut and dried is what needs to be done. There are guide lines from IET (4TH Ed) that say office equipment (as that's what I understand your friend uses) of Class I should be tested and inspected every 2 years. But it is only guidance. As he or she only ones a duty of care to themselves they can get away with not following the guidance. They can be sensible and do regular visual inspection and feel safe.In this particular instance. I’m referring to a company of one person, who works within his his own rented property within a larger building, who uses power tools to carry out repairs. Would he need to PAT Test his appliances or is he not required as he has no employees.
Why is that Dick please explainIf you are an Electrician, self employed, and you need to know if your portable tools are safe to use, then give up.
It's hard to answer this one with certainty. The Health and Safety at Work Act, The Using Electric Equipment Regs etc. make it clear that ALL electrical equipment used for work must be safe. That's everything from the mains supply transformer in the street outside, to the hand dryer in the loo. What is not quite so cut and dried is what needs to be done. There are guide lines from IET (4TH Ed) that say office equipment (as that's what I understand your friend uses) of Class I should be tested and inspected every 2 years. But it is only guidance. As he or she only owes a duty of care to themselves they can get away with not following the guidance. They can be sensible and do regular visual inspection and feel safe.In this particular instance. I’m referring to a company of one person, who works within his his own rented property within a larger building, who uses power tools to carry out repairs. Would he need to PAT Test his appliances or is he not required as he has no employees.
…...especially if they're using dimwits to do their testing.and it all just leads to people making money out of others' 'common dense'...….
Thought soIt's hard to answer this one with certainty. The Health and Safety at Work Act, The Using Electric Equipment Regs etc. make it clear that ALL electrical equipment used for work must be safe. That's everything from the mains supply transformer in the street outside, to the hand dryer in the loo. What is not quite so cut and dried is what needs to be done. There are guide lines from IET (4TH Ed) that say office equipment (as that's what I understand your friend uses) of Class I should be tested and inspected every 2 years. But it is only guidance. As he or she only owes a duty of care to themselves they can get away with not following the guidance. They can be sensible and do regular visual inspection and feel safe.
HOWEVER
If their electrical equipment is used in interaction with the PUBLIC that makes all the difference. Do they have visitors who make themselves a brew? A cleaner using a vacuum? A sales rep using a hand dryer?
In these cases they owe a duty of care. In these cases, they must ensure all electrical equipment is safe.
How do you do that!? You inspect. You keep a register. You test.
Hope that helps
I’ll do it for £50 so how about I can rent the property for £1000/month?" Hello Pirate, I've got a new tenant coming in next week. Can you come and do the PAT testing (sic)"
"Yes, of course...what have you got?"
"Oh, just a kettle, microwave, toaster, oven and hob...and maybe 6 table lamps, stuff like that".
"Why do you want me to come and test them?"
"Because I want to be able to demonstrate that I have at least tried to make sure they are safe for the tenant to use"
"OK, fair enough. I'll need to do a full risk assessment, including PA testing of my drill in case I need to use it to make some holes in the walls"
"WHAT???"
"Can't have it blowing up and killing us both, can I?"
"Are you serious. Pirate?"
"No! I'll do it myself, and as I don't employ anyone else, I can just get on with it...but you will have to stay at a safe distance, obviously"
"Whew! I was a bit worried there! So, you will come round and test these items so that they are safe to use? That's it?"
"Yup, just like that!"
"May I ask how much it will cost?"
"Of course! You are half an hour away, you have maybe a dozen items to test, assuming no problems, maybe an hour...how about £80?. I'll do the paperwork in the evening and email you the results, but I'll sticker the passes at the time."
"How about £50?"
"Oh...what's the rent?"
" £1500/month"
"No"
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