Periodic inspection

[hsharp]

I am just learning: If I where to install just radial circuit for example or a fused spur socket, would I have to do a full periodic inspection of the house installation?

 

[MDJ]

What do you think?? Then we will tell you what we think :smilielol5:

 

[hsharp]

I think yes, I am sure that is what It said in the BS7671

 

[Octopus]

Try again.

 

[Jay Sparks]

You would have to issue a ceificate but think about which one! What would you normally issue a PIR (EICR) for?
Have a look again in the regs book or GN3.

 

[KAS1]

I know no lol

 

[glasgospark]

of course not you dodo

 

[Silly Sausage]

I am just learning: If I where to install just radial circuit for example or a fused spur socket, would I have to do a full periodic inspection of the house installation?

You could do, but you'd go out of business pretty quickly.
Check Main Earth and Main Bonding Conductors are present and correct, do job and issue a MWC.

 

[MDJ]

I think yes, I am sure that is what It said in the BS7671

??? WOW :biggrin5:

 

[hsharp]

Would the case be if you think the instillation is not at its best, then you could recommend one to the customer?

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

EYUP :banghead:

 

[accordfire]

I am just learning: If I where to install just radial circuit for example or a fused spur socket, would I have to do a full periodic inspection of the house installation?

I would say.... don't install that spur until you know the regs, and don't just guess.

 

[pete555]

I would say.... don't install that spur until you know the regs, and don't just guess.

this sounds like good advice

 

[hsharp]

It say in GN3 page 60 "after alteration or additions to the original installation"
So Archy Styrigg could be lible if any thing went wrong with his installations.
Am I be correct?

 

[Guest55]

Would the case be if you think the instillation is not at its best, then you could recommend one to the customer?

a fair and reasonable course of action.

 

[Octopus]

I am just learning: If I where to install just radial circuit for example or a fused spur socket, would I have to do a full periodic inspection of the house installation?

It would depend on the age of the installation and what you see on the "visit". If its obviously old you may decline to quote until you have done a EICR. Obviously for a new radial you'd use an EIC for the new circuit and I always insert "used" against all the existing circuits. Then you'd need to notify LABC

 

[Sintra]

It say in GN3 page 60 "after alteration or additions to the original installation"
So Archy Styrigg could be lible if any thing went wrong with his installations.
Am I be correct?

Not in mine it doesn't. Where did you get your GN3 from.

 

[accordfire]

It say in GN3 page 60 "after alteration or additions to the original installation"
So Archy Styrigg could be lible if any thing went wrong with his installations.
Am I be correct?

Sorry, are you saying GN3, P60 says "Complete and issue an EICR after adding a spur to an existing circuit" - or words to that effect?

What, exactly is it you're quoting? There will be a reg number against whichever entry you're reading.

I certainly hope it doesn't say that ANYWHERE, because it would mean many thousand copies of GN3 have been wrongly printed and published, and many hundred of electricians have gotten things badly wrong too.

As an aside - whatever testing you do, or don't do, you can be held liable after carrying out work on an existing installation. The point of doing the testing (correctly) is to ensure that your liability is mitigated as far as possible. E.g. that there is minimal risk to your customer of causing them harm by electrocution, or other faulty workmanship or material.

This, for one key reason, is why I said - Do not install spurs (or other electrical equipment) until you have read and understood what is required.

I hate to say it.....but clearly, once again, you have guessed, and tried to quote something you don't understand, rather than simply owning up and saying you don't know. You'd find more help with honesty.

 

[Guest55]

I hate to say it.....but clearly, once again, you have guessed, and tried to quote something you don't understand, rather than simply owning up and saying you don't know. You'd find more help with honesty.

known in the trade as caught with pants down

 

[accordfire]

known in the trade as caught with pants down

Or.... as one guy was recently heard to say in court..... there wasn't enough money in the job to do the testing too.

 

[hsharp]

 

[hsharp]

These photos are from my new GN3 book, as you can see I am not guessing, but if I have got it wrong I more than happy to be corrected.
As I do want to be a good electrician with my Part p and BS7671 qualifications unlike a lot of electricians.
Remember I am only learning.

 

[Octopus]

These photos are from my new GN3 book, as you can see I am not guessing, but if I have got it wrong I more than happy to be corrected.
As I do want to be a good electrician with my Part p and BS7671 qualifications unlike a lot of electricians.
Remember I am only learning.

Ok mate, thats the previous edition.

 

[hsharp]

Thanks: I am correct then yes?

 

[Sintra]

Just to let you know your book is out of date. I have added legible pictures of what I think you have tried to. Now can you explain where it says you need to carry out a full "PIR" if you are carrying out an addition or alteration.

 

[MDJ]

He won't be able to Sintra, because it isn't the case, sigh hsharp is another confused Member.

 

[Sintra]

Thanks: I am correct then yes?

Tell us how you are correct.

 

[Octopus]

Tell us how you are correct.

Yes he is correct in thinking he is reading the prevoius version of GN3

 

[hsharp]

Ok so I have it wrong, I thought mine was the latest addition, given to me by the collage.
I will get a new one and update my self, because that is what a good electrician should do!!!
Thanks guys I stand corrected.

 

[Octopus]

Ok so I have it wrong, I thought mine was the latest addition, given to me by the collage.
I will get a new one and update my self, because that is what a good electrician should do!!!
Thanks guys I stand corrected.

Buying updated books happens rather too often IMHO and adds unnecessary overheads to our businesses!