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Doing a little job for a friends of ours who owns a furniture company. Have some metal double sockets round a couple of his work shop areas. Nothing to crazy. Only to be used for fans, kettle, chargers etc.

All in swa clipper along metal tray. No sockets to be used outside and all staff are trained and instructed / competent persons.

Where do you think I stand on RCD protection. As going to have around 8/9 circuits and want to try and save a bit of £££ for not buying rcbos!

cheers people.
 

gnselectricals

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Can you swop the sockets for Rcd sockets where necessary ie external use and higher Risk items and label the rest for use for specific items ?


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telectrix

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sockets for general use must be RCD protected unless a documented risk assessment is carried out giving good reason/s for omitting RCD protection. the skilled/instructed persons went out the window with amd. 3.
 

bigspark17

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Are you installing these 8/9 new circuits or doing additions or db change for these sockets, just that its unclear on your post.?
 

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Doing a little job for a friends of ours who owns a furniture company. Have some metal double sockets round a couple of his work shop areas. Nothing to crazy. Only to be used for fans, kettle, chargers etc.

All in swa clipper along metal tray. No sockets to be used outside and all staff are trained and instructed / competent persons.

Where do you think I stand on RCD protection. As going to have around 8/9 circuits and want to try and save a bit of £££ for not buying rcbos!

cheers people.
Yes they need RCD protection unless exempt under a detailed risk assessment, as do all types of sockets up to 20A in any situation or environment apart from where used for connection of a particular item of equipment and labelled or identified as such.

You might want to hint to your mate that trying to circumvent safety aspects of the wiring regs for reasons of cost is not the best way to protect his staff in accordance with the EAWR.
 

ruston

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And 8 or 9 circuits is a lot of kettles and chargers.
Sacrificing safety for economy is not the best design feature anywhere , but even more poignant in a workshop.
 

DPG

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As above ^^^^ can't believe he's trying to save money this way especially in a workshop. Anywy, does it need 8 or 9 separate circuits? Daz
 
Whether its an addition or complete new install you may only need 1 - 2 ring circuits so can't see the point of trying to save a few quid by omitting a couple of rcbo's or a new split board if you require room for extra circuits.

If you are the designer insist he has the correct protection gear installed, how much is a life worth and how clear do you want to keep your conscience? :smile5:

Also he may find it voids his public liability if the electrical installation is not up to spec?

Sometimes you have to explain the potential costs involved in the future if he tries to cut corners at this stage.
 
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wymondhamcables

Totally agree in this situation RCD protection is essential for compliance with BS7671 Am3 and the EAW regulations
 
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