Rointe

[simonspark]

Hello all. I think this question may have been asked before, but how good are Rointe oil filled rads. Please help quick, because I may be buying 2 on the morrow, Thanks.

 

[eddielarge]

Hi ,,

i posted it before,, what discount are you being offered ,, as CEF who think they have an exclusive deal havnt

 

[simonspark]

Hello mate. CEF are charging me £412 for the 1.2 KW and £325 for the 770W. Plus VAT

 

[simonspark]

But are they any good?

 

[eddielarge]

Hello mate. CEF are charging me £412 for the 1.2 KW and £325 for the 770W. Plus VAT

Hi ,, I cant track down the trade prices but CEF offered me 15% off, i then rang Edmundsons and they quoted me 35% .

CEF rang me to check if i wanted to order , and they fell over when they heard i was offered 35%, as that is what CEF get,

He spoke to the rep to find out what was going on as he thought they had an exclusive deal and the guy said no and that the discount was offered to all

So avoid CEF unless they give u 35%

EDDIE

 

[simonspark]

Thanks for that. But are they any good. I dont want to sell the customer ****e goods

 

[eddielarge]

i Was hoping you would tell me ,, Im like you i want to install but not had a chance yet,

Please let me know how you get on

 

[simonspark]

Ok. They sound good, but so did betamax. Ill let you know.

 

[eddielarge]

i brought a betamax and a minidisc player,, says it all

 

[gaffer]

Dont know anyone who has used or installed these yet,there must be some one?

 

[nicelydone]

Rointe heaters are oil filled aluminium radiators. They are claiming 60% energy saving, but having read the report from BSRIA, all it says is that a 1.6kw rad was used to heat a room with 1kw/hr heat loss and it used 1kw/hr. Any electric heater with an electronic thermostat will do exactly the same. All electric resistance elements are 100% efficient at turning electric into heat, so providing that the appliance has an electronic thermostat to accurately maintain the room temperature then all electric heaters will give the same energy usage and the same running costs. Rointe heaters are nothing special and cost stupid money.

 

[eddielarge]

Rointe heaters are oil filled aluminium radiators. They are claiming 60% energy saving, but having read the report from BSRIA, all it says is that a 1.6kw rad was used to heat a room with 1kw/hr heat loss and it used 1kw/hr. Any electric heater with an electronic thermostat will do exactly the same. All electric resistance elements are 100% efficient at turning electric into heat, so providing that the appliance has an electronic thermostat to accurately maintain the room temperature then all electric heaters will give the same energy usage and the same running costs. Rointe heaters are nothing special and cost stupid money.

Yes u may be right , but why are we complaining its more work for us, And plus you can turn one on at a time useing the remote control hence saving energy.

Also no more gastly copper pipes

 

[nicelydone]

The point I was making is that there are lots of electric radiators on the market with very similar control capabilities and that Rointe rads are no more controllable or any more energy efficient than any of the others, despite their wild and untruthful claims. If you pass on their energy saving claims to your customers, you will only get hassle later when the customer gets a huge electric bill. Electric radiators certainly have their place, as a controllable alternative to storage heaters ( and much better looking ) BUT there are other products which are just as good, or better than Rointe - AND much cheaper.

 

[simonspark]

Ha! Ive finally fitted 2 of these heaters. and yeah, they seem pretty good but are very expensive. However the customer was very happy. They cost about the same as a storage heater with boost control
Be warned though. They do not come supplied with the remote control, that costs extra. And the other thing is this. They come supplied with 1 metre of flex which has an outlet on the right hand side of the heater. The heaters I fitted were a metre wide. The sfcu for the heater was on the left hand side. Ergo the flex was not long enough. And if you try to open up the heater to put on a longer flex the warranty is void. Lets just say mini trunking at skirting level, crimps and heat shrink sleaving!
Oh and I managed to get those lovely Rointe boys to send me a remote FOC. One remote does any heater.
I didnt hang around to see how quickly they heated the room up because the weather was strangely already warm considering it was a June afternoon! But they look good.
One last thing though. If you have a wall with dodgy fixings, you may struggle because youre rather limited to how it fits to the wall. Hope this helps

 

[sydney]

Hi, This my first post so not sure if I should start new thread.

does anyone have experience of Plano radiators?

they sound good and are very thin with suposedly new technology.

Any opinions welcome and apreaceated - Radiant Heat Range of Designer Electric Central Heating Radiators

 

[sydney]

Hi nicely,

you seem very clued-up so can I ask if you have any experience or knowledge of Plano radiators from intelligentheat - Radiant Heat Range of Designer Electric Central Heating Radiators

 

[nicelydone]

Hi Sydney,

Sorry, not been on the forum for a while.

What you have to remember is that all electric heating is 100% efficient - all the electrical input is converted to heat, so no electrical heating product can be any more efficient than another. Accurate electronic thermostatic control does help with running costs, but pretty much all the products on the market have this. The only differences in the products are the internals. i.e oil, fireclay, ceramic, element only, steel construction, aluminium construction. The only difference any of this makes is either a slower heat up time and better heat retention ( ceramic, fireclay, steel ) or faster heat up and little heat retention ( element only, dynamic oil, aluminium ). In the end, if you have a 2kw heater/radiator it will give 2kw of heat. If it's retained internally to the radiator, it just means that it's not in the room yet. The largest output in the range you mention seems to be 1.3kw which is only enough for maybe a bedroom, not usually enough for a living room. Hope this is helpful.

 

[BigFergs]

What you have to remember is that all electric heating is 100% efficient - all the electrical input is converted to heat, so no electrical heating product can be any more efficient than another.

Hahaha. That's a classic. Where did you learn that particular gem?

I've installed a fair few of the Rointe K heaters and they are pretty good from our poibnt of view as well as the customer. Reduced electricity bills can't really be argued with. I'm getting more and more enquiries about them, too. It's a good bit of kit, guys.

 

[mayfair]

Was on a Rointe course at CEF in Spain not so long ago they will give you nice energy saving comparison slide rule type of thing plus lots and lots of support, if you ask nice you may even get a nice fleece or jacket. I did

 

[nicelydone]

Hahaha. That's a classic. Where did you learn that particular gem?

I've installed a fair few of the Rointe K heaters and they are pretty good from our poibnt of view as well as the customer. Reduced electricity bills can't really be argued with. I'm getting more and more enquiries about them, too. It's a good bit of kit, guys.

That particular gem can be learned in GCSE physics! It is a fact that electric resistance heating is all 100% efficient. It is basic physics. There is no difference in efficiency in any electric resistance heating product, all the fuel input is converted to heat. Good thermostat and programming controls can help to reduce the running costs of any heating system however by preventing big overshoot and undershoot of a set point therefore preventing unneccesary overheat and re-heat cycle. Most thermostat manufacturers are now using electronic Proportional Integral technology (or PI) which will maintain a room set temperature within +/- 0.2 deg C. Rointe say there 'energy optimiser' ( Electronic PI thermostat ) is accurate to +/- 0.25 deg C so no better than any other electronic PI thermostat. In conclusion, any electric heater with an electronic PI thermostat, of which there are many on the market will do exactly the same as a Rointe heater. I'm not saying Rointe heaters are no good, they are just not an energy saving product and have exactly the same efficiency of any electric resistance heater.