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Hi All,

Found this beauty in a rented property.... the landlord has refused to pay for any renovation of the property as he deems it unnecessary, has even refused to pay for the repair leaks in the past etc.... this supply runs down the wall cavity never to be seen again .... when house supply is isolated this is still live. From what I can make out seems like the previous tenant liked to grow 'exotic plants'

Suggested to the tenant to call DNO, however he is apprehensive as he believes the landlord will not foot the bill for any damages as his previous electrician has stated he has made this safe. (the tenant has also just paid for the full redecoration of the below rooms.... whoops)

Told them I would ask around .... has any one had anything like this before? ultimately should the cost of damages (if any) lie with the landlord? ....

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Looks like it's picking up a supply from the other end. Have you had a good look at the supply to see if it's been bypassed....external box, maybe.
No onslaught......leave it and, if it is bypassed it's dangerous, so contact DNO and give them your suspicions....or findings.
 
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And when Swede says onslaught, he is referring to the voltstick! :eek:
 
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Looks like it's picking up a supply from the other end. Have you had a good look at the supply to see if it's been bypassed....external box, maybe.
No onslaught......leave it and, if it is bypassed it's dangerous, so contact DNO and give them your suspicions....or findings.
I've explained this as its 100% bypassed ... but what hes worried about if the DNO come in and rip up the floor who bares the brunt of the cost?
 

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I've explained this as its 100% bypassed ... but what hes worried about if the DNO come in and rip up the floor who bares the brunt of the cost?
well if dno damage or rip up floor they have to leave it back in satisfactory condition. between them and landlord that one. if they find the supply has been bypassed illegally they could bill him a large sum of money and the floor will be least of his worries!
 
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As much as I'd love to take the credit for the volt stick and the destruction of the majority of floor boards in the room am afraid I cant .... pictures sent to me by the plumber before I'd even arrived ...... but please bring on the onslaught anyway I'll pass on the messages.
A plumber with a VoltStick now that is a dangerous combination.........
 

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I've explained this as its 100% bypassed ... but what hes worried about if the DNO come in and rip up the floor who bares the brunt of the cost?
I'm on about finding out WHERE it's bypassed. It could be coming from next door for all we know.
Why would they rip up the floor...….they'll just disconnect. If he doesn't report to DNO, he's the one breaking the law. There's nothing connected so nothing can be proved. All they can do is compare old bills proving nothing.
 
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Short it out and see what fuse blows, perhaps in a neighbours consumer unit, perhaps the cutout fuse, perhaps the substation fuse. You could also place a bet to enhance the thrill.
 

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Phone the DNO yourself, or and the Old Bill if someone is stealing juice, and / or growing Weed it's either theft or a drug related case. You were the last person there, any problems, a fire or injury maybe will be on you as the person to find it, we are, all of us are responsible for ours and others well being, it's dangerous / unsafe so report it the Landlord must be a right rouge, if he want's nothing to do with it, in my humble opinion. just saying.
 
So what is the problem ?
You say an electrician has made it safe ?
it may look messy, but if an electrician says it is safe !
 
I will not believe that hasn't been done by anyone but an electrician. Are you sure it isn't feeding back from inside the wall?

This is totally the landlord's problem.... unless the tenant leaves it, then the tenant will get the blame. This also is a potential life threatening situation if live wires are left in this way. If the plumber didn't have a voltstick he could have cut in to the wires thinking that he isolated them... You are now part of the loop as you witnessed the hidden cables.

report it
 

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I may have read this wrong, you have not personally been to site?
Just a call from the plumber and some pictures

I suspect that if you look carefully at the meter and fuse type area then the solution will become apparent.

Just out of interest, you might get an indication of where it’s fed from by measuring the voltage between live on the suspect supply and live from a nearby socket.

400v Definatley next door
230v could be next door or meter bypass
0v plumbers volt stick is over sensitive
 

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Mmmm,i'm not sure me barrister pal,would set sail,on a plumber's heresay.....🙂
 

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Last December, folks...…...probably hooked in for a bit of free juice, by now!
 

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Last December, folks...…...probably hooked in for a bit of free juice, by now!
Well spotted.

I don’t think we need to worry about this thread now.
Maybe it should be closed now? @westward10
 

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So what is the problem ?
You say an electrician has made it safe ?
it may look messy, but if an electrician says it is safe !
What's the problem?? 2 things
1) The fee is still live with the main isolator off !!!
2) The thread is 12 months old :)
 

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Surely this subject begs its own thread - How to spot bypasses and meter tinkering?
Could do but it would need to be in a restricted area because it could be used as a virtual instruction manual for how to do it.
 

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I know this is an old thread
Make sure you place it in writing to the landlord- if the house burns down you can then prove you did your bit
Sent it proof of post AND recorded delivery.
 

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