Your thoughts on bonding this gas pipe

[GLENNSPARK]

Would you also make a Connection to the DNO cable before the cutout or Meter?

so what your saying is regardless of whether or not it offers a potential...you`d just leave it ...would you...

caus it `aint got a meter stuck on it`...lol..

read dills post earlier on in this thread...

 

[GMES]

Would you also make a Connection to the DNO cable before the cutout or Meter?

Your missing my point or maybe I didn't say it right, what I am saying is as an electrician if that was MY house and there was the chance that with a socket so close there could be a difference in potential then yes I would absolutely bond it if my test proved that it needed bonding. I am not talking about tampering with gas supplies am I, I am talking about attaching a clamp to the exterior pipe! Where is the problem.

 

[snowhead]

you`d just leave it ...would you...

caus it `aint got a meter stuck on it`...lol..

NO, I haven't said or suggested that at all.

 

[Engineer54]

Would you also make a Connection to the DNO cable before the cutout or Meter?

What's the relevance here, to main bonding an extraneous gas pipe??

But yes, if the incoming cable was a PILC, and the Ze proved suitable by testing, i'd have no problem taking a main earth connection from that cable with a suitable clamp. I wouldn't however make a DIY N-E PME connection....

 

[GLENNSPARK]

NO, I haven't said or suggested that at all.

so what were #100 all about then?

 

[tidyboiler]

There are a couple of reasons why I would remove my pants.

Oh yeah? pray tell................. :drool5: .............:ihih:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

again to the OP:

test it

prove extranious..or not

if so get it bonded

 

[GMES]

What's the relevance here, to main bonding an extraneous gas pipe??

But yes, if the incoming cable was a PILC, and the Ze proved suitable by testing, i'd have no problem taking a main earth connection from that cable with a suitable clamp. I wouldn't however make a DIY N-E PME connection....

Thank you Eng, it was a flippant comment about the cutout, and totally irrelevant to bonding.

 

[GMES]

Popping out for half an hour to find an headless gas pipe to bond, and get our lass a birthday card brb

 

[george.nec]

If there's no Gas meter, You cannot bound to something that's not there.
The gas main is outside the property. So just leave a 10:00mm CPC there for future connection.

 

[Engineer54]

If there's no Gas meter, You cannot bound to something that's not there.
The gas main is outside the property. So just leave a 10:00mm CPC there for future connection.

Are you for real?? So it doesn't matter to your mind, that the pipe entering the property is extraneous, just that it doesn't have a meter attached to it!! ....Jesus!!

Oh and it WILL be extraneous, on that i'd put money on!! lol!!

 

[Plonker 3]

If there's no Gas meter, You cannot bound to something that's not there.
The gas main is outside the property. So just leave a 10:00mm CPC there for future connection.

I am requoting myself for the benefit of those who only want to read what they want too.

Where abouts is the supply side if a structural steel, ducting etc, all of them could well have to be bonded too if needed.

 

[Silly Sausage]

For anyone still struggling with this question, get yourselves one of these installed and make your connection to the outgoing copper work!
PRIMARY METER INSTALLATION KITS

 

[Geordie Spark]

For anyone still struggling with this question, get yourselves one of these installed and make your connection to the outgoing copper work!
PRIMARY METER INSTALLATION KITS

Perfect!!

Buy and fit your own meter then bill yourself !!!

 

[telectrix]

is the gas pipe inside the building or outside? if the latter, it could be argued that it is not extraneous as it does not introduce a potential inside the structure.

 

[Geoffsd]

FFS. For those who seem to have trouble reading English -


544.1.2 states:

The MEB connection to any gas, ... service shall be made as near as practicable to the point of entry...

Where there is ... a meter ... etc.

There isn't a ******* meter so point of entry.


How simple is it?

 

[7029 dave]

Take a look.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Are you for real?? So it doesn't matter to your mind, that the pipe entering the property is extraneous, just that it doesn't have a meter attached to it!! ....Jesus!!

Oh and it WILL be extraneous, on that i'd put money on!! lol!!

dont waste your time eng mate...

it aint getting through....lol..

 

[GMES]

dont waste your time eng mate...

it aint getting through....lol..

I thought trying to win an argument with our lass was hard work but ffs

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I thought trying to win an argument with our lass was hard work but ffs

depends if your due you tea...or not...

 

[PEG]

...Oooh,missed a right pedant-fest here...personally,i would induction weld a SS M10 stud on it for a 25mm eye cleat....just in case...

 

[uksparks]

Flipping heck, 11 pages over a blooming gas pipe I just wanted a pointeras how best to remove the sodding paint or add pipe to top etc, my god....

oh oh it's inside by the way.

 

[GMES]

Flipping heck, 11 pages over a blooming gas pipe I just wanted a pointeras how best to remove the sodding paint or add pipe to top etc, my god....

oh oh it's inside by the way.

Then bond the bloody thing and be done with it. :32:

 

[uksparks]

I am going to bond the pipe, it's you lot who are making a meal out of it!

 

[GMES]

I am going to bond the pipe, it's you lot who are making a meal out of it!

Oh shut up thee thy started it 125 bloody post's back :sifone:

 

[Pete999]

Flipping heck, 11 pages over a blooming gas pipe I just wanted a pointeras how best to remove the sodding paint or add pipe to top etc, my god....

oh oh it's inside by the way.

emery cloth

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I am going to bond the pipe, it's you lot who are making a meal out of it!

like GMES says...

stop bleatin....

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Jesus Christ!!

I work on a large detox wing in a female prison... screaming, shouting, scratching, spitting, moaning.........

And you lot are worse!!!!! :crazy:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

jesus christ!!

I work on a large detox wing in a female prison... Screaming, shouting, scratching, spitting, moaning.........

And you lot are worse!!!!! :crazy:

its them lot....not me!!

 

[GMES]

its them lot....not me!!

Classic! that made me chuckle.

 

[mayfair]

i've lost the will to Live

 

[telectrix]

just be careful with that BS951. you could crush the pipe. :martini_shaken::yesnod:

 

[Knobhead]

i've lost the will to Live

Know how you feel. OK I didn’t help the situation but Meggermouth got me a little riled.

 

[davesparks]

Know how you feel. OK I didn’t help the situation but Meggermouth got me a little riled.

That's ok, nobody noticed you getting riled. And it kept some of us amused

 

[davesparks]

just be careful with that BS951. you could crush the pipe. :martini_shaken::yesnod:

I did that with a soft copper oil pipe once when I was an apprentice.

 

[GMES]

I did that with a soft copper oil pipe once when I was an apprentice.

And I once did it with my Todger...Sorry but I'm bored!

 

[telectrix]

that makes it clear why you walk like that in your avatar then.

 

[telectrix]

just to digrees from a boring gas pipe. last week was nosing on a site in turkey. new 6 storey hotel. all the usual signs at the site entrance, but not a hard hat to be seen, every worker in trainers, the only thing hi-vis was bald heads under a hot sun. scaffolding climbed with not a ladder to be seen.

in the local hospital there were no crushed skulls, no flattened feet, nobody impaled on the forks of a stacker truck, in fact, nothing to laugh at at all. makes you wonder.

 

[topquark]

Common sense. I take it yer back with proper beer now!

 

[telectrix]

yep. thank allah ( oops). just on my 3rd old peculier. stomach is slowly returning to normal and gas is escaping from orifices.

 

[ayjay]

hello op i love you and your gas pipe very much

 

[DPG]

hello op i love you and your gas pipe very much

That's the most sensible post on this thread. Daz

 

[egg67]

Is it gas pipe or is it a pipe with gas in it, would gas bored just leave a supply to house with no meter think about it you can just con up and all your heating will be free , think they would cut of in street, ring them up and ask, or just take paint off pipe with something and bond then test all good at end day, you can go home put feet up and what for next job

 

[DPG]

Could just briefly turn the valve on to see if it is actually connected to mains gas. Daz

 

[Geordie Spark]

Could just briefly turn the valve on to see if it is actually connected to mains gas. Daz

Be assured it very probably will be, but I have to ask what would the presence - or not - of gas in the pipe have to do with the issue of does it need bonding?? :dead:

 

[DPG]

Be assured it very probably will be, but I have to ask what would the presence - or not - of gas in the pipe have to do with the issue of does it need bonding?? :dead:

Was just replying to post 143 about the availability of free un metered gas. Daz

 

[Geordie Spark]

Was just replying to post 143 about the availability of free un metered gas. Daz

Perfectly feasable but you would need to bolt a governor on it first to reduce the pressure from 70 Millibar to 20 Millibar first!

 

[egg67]

Think it's to do with it's a pipe, you can not see what's in in but you think something is in it, so your mind start thinking what's in in, then you think s..t it's a gas pipe and I do want to touch it, but if it was a water pipe you would just get the sharpes thing out tool box get the paint of and bound it test go home have dinner, beer go to bed

 

[DPG]

Perfectly feasable but you would need to bolt a governor on it first to reduce the pressure from 70 Millibar to 20 Millibar first!

Just turn the valve on about a third of the way. Daz

 

[Geordie Spark]

Just turn the valve on about a third of the way. Daz

Which will reduce the flow but not the pressure. Nor will it regulate the pressure to keep it constant. That is the job of the governor.

By all means try it and see what happens ...... I'll send flowers to your funeral.