Should the UK pay up? UK told to pay £1.7bn extra to EU

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OK, its Friday so I'll kick off todays debate on a EUROPEAN level:

"UK told to pay £1.7bn extra to EU"

"Under the new calculations, the UK and the Netherlands are both being asked to pay more, while France and Germany are both set to receive rebates.

The additional payment is due on 1 December."


I don't think we should pay up. The Euro countries are struggling due to the stupidity of introducing the single currency - so they should help each other.

The UK may be doing better, we still have a massive deficit, but the EU is now asking us to INCREASE our deficit to pay them.

Utter madness.


Over to you!!
 
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that's why i vote UKIP. bloody EU parasites.
 
Now now let's not be emotional just say non
Hmmmm no money in the coffers to give the nurses a raise ; so let's spend that on the national health I stead as most of Europe use it
 
flood the tunnel. pull up the drawbridge. stand by to repel boarders.
 
Mr Farage has wet dreams over days like this. And do you know what? I'm increasingly inclined to agree with him.
 
We, that is the UK and the US albeit very late in the day saved Europe, the allies removed the National Socialist from Europe if it wasn't for us we would probably be living under German rule, oh sorry we are aren't we?
 
What really concerns me is that we are running a deficit, and I don't believe our deficit is within the range the eu allow so if we pay up Will we then be fined?
 
It don't matter what Cam' says he has absolutely no power to overturn this or make a case against the EU ...the sooner we are out the better and if we manage to exit we will act as a key domino in taking down the non-democratic money cow the is the EU... Strange how Merkel says goes and Oh look germany get a massive rebate.
 
Personally I would just refuse to pay it, the max the EU fine they can impose is 200million a year and as one of their biggest contributors to the EU we kinda of have the cards here in our favour but depends on what kind of balls Cam' has. The minute we head down that road the EU will make life difficult in future decisions.
 
Winter is almost upon us and yet again there will be news reports about the working class and the elderly not being able to buy food or turn on the heating. Charities yet again handing out food parcels and informing people to wrap up at night and to turn the heating down to save money.

"Mr & Mrs Jones, we know that you have both worked hard all your life's and have paid every penny of tax you owed, but we have to send it to the EU!!!!"

We need to put our own house in order before helping out the neighbors.
 
For once I agree with Murdoch politically, to add should we be paying India 50 million a year when they have a man in space, a space program and nuclear weapons and power plants? Re-Europe, we need to tell them to get lost, I am all for the EU, a big supporter infact, but we pay our share as it is, I think we need to tell them enough is enough and they will have to accept it or we will bugger off.
 
We already pay £55m a day! What the hell do they £55m a day for?! And that's just from us. I'm with MDJ I'm all for the EU but they absolutely must be reigned in. It's expenditure is incredible and for what?
 
We need an act of parliament which limits the amount of money in percentage to our GDP, and it should be fixed, if the EU don't like it we should threaten them with a referendum, although I am a for the EU myself I and others who agree with it would be outvoted 2 to 1 and the europeans know it, so they need to be careful or we will be out, then we will suffer for sure but they will as well, JMO.
 
Watching the news at the moment and it looks like Cameron is trying to avoid paying this 1.7 billion the EU has insisted on, I bet if there were a labour government he would say he wouldn't pay it, now he is in power he will say he has no choice, For once I agree with him, I hope he shows some backbone this time and doesn't back down, we pay 55 million a day now, it needs to stop. I feel his hands may be tied, lets see what happens.
 
They need it so they can give Germany 700 million euros back and France 1 billion

Amazing we have been carrying out many austerity cuts to everything most working or people are worse of, people starving, or freezing in winter. welfare cuts. To so called pay the national debt down while promoting growth (TORYS WORDS NOT MINE) even though they are spending more than ever.
France as done F??? all and is getting a billion back maybe it better if the economy struggles as you then get money back lol

Tell them where take a running jump back into the English Channel and swim back to Brussels to waste billions yearly and as Tel says pull up the draw bridge and repel boarders.
 
Anything been left out Chaps . EU

Take the Great out of Britain

Lobby group Business for Britain warned today that the EU repeatedly ignores the UK's calls for tape cutting and has created 1,139 new laws over the last year alone.
 
Should we pay? No! Not when we have people here who are forced to use foodbanks to survive, not when people have a choice between heat or eat, etc. etc.
A withdrawal from the EU would be tremendously bad for this country, it's estimated that 4 million jobs will be lost if we bail and there's no way on earth that Farage and co can dress that up as beneficial. Businesses wanting to sell to into the Eurozone would still have to comply with reams and reams of EU legislation to allow them to do this so where is the benefit for exporters?
Farage has, very craftily, gotten people behind UKIP by the very careful use of language which portrays him as a "one of us" type of figure however, it should be remembered that he is a privately educated, very wealthy, former banker, former tory so isn't really all that different from Cameron, Osborne, Johnson et al. He is as much a part of the "political class" and the "self appointed elite" he often professes to despise.
UKIP MEPs have a disgraceful attendance and voting record yet are happy to shove their noses in the EU trough while doing nothing to represent the people who put them there.
 
No way,in fact we should stop giving any money to any foreign country,even those to whom we give money for so called humanitarian aid,the governments of many of these so called destitue countries have loads of cash but choose not to spend it on their own people.If we stopped all financial aid and the vast amounts we give to the EU for just a year it would be a huge step towards sorting out our own problems.In the words of the late great Frankie Howerd nay ,nay and thrice nay.
 
As usual the UK will stand alone and "voice their concerns" whilst all the "takers" will say what bad "europeans" we are.

The Dutch are in the same boat as us, anyone know what they are saying??
 
Well Cameron has already admitted defeat, he has said he won't pay the 1.7 billion by December 1st, but if you listen to his interview he didn't rule out paying a sum soon after LOL
 
Shame we don't have any input on the BBC as to how the other countries are reporting this and reactions from their populations!
 
"UK told to pay £1.7bn extra to EU"
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Just treble the proposed Mansion Tax, then all Tel's Tory mates can pay it.
Problem solved!
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MDJ said:
Well Cameron has already admitted defeat, he has said he won't pay the 1.7 billion by December 1st, but if you listen to his interview he didn't rule out paying a sum soon after LOL
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Exactly!...he just said he won't pay by the 1st of December, the cheque book will come out on the second...

Its a joke, Im with tel, get us out...
 
Brightspark2 said:
Exactly!...he just said he won't pay by the 1st of December, the cheque book will come out on the second...

Its a joke, Im with tel, get us out...
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It will be difficult for the government not to pay the money, it is all hot air I am afraid, were in it, agreed to it and cannot change it, the only way is to leave the EU or threaten to leave, on this particular subject I feel sorry for the government, well sort of :biggrin:, however we are all paying long term.
 
darkwood said:
It don't matter what Cam' says he has absolutely no power to overturn this or make a case against the EU ...the sooner we are out the better
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Spot on. The UK signed the agreement so how can you just turn around and say you don't want to pay. The amount is not a surprise, it's worked out according to a formula that everyone agreed upon.

Not paying is like taking out a loan and having a hissy fit a year or two later because the interest rates changed and you've got to pay a few more quid every month in repayments. If you don't want to be in that position then you shouldn't have taken the loan in the first place. Likewise with the EU, if you're not prepared to pay your dues you shouldn't have joined.
 
rapparee said:
Well i cant even find out how much ireland have to pay, malta have to pay €13M
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I doubt Ireland pay much at the moment, due to the near banckrupcy the EU has probably allowed it time to recover, I don't doubt eventually when it is solvent again the EU will milk it.
 

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