Do you think we would be any better under the Tories ?

YES!!!!!!!
Don't forget it was labour who brought in TAX Credits for working familys I for one have benefited without them my family would be struggling more.

Great.... so you have a family. I don’t, i worked and do not have kids ,so I can save for a more comfortable life and enjoy it some day(my choice). At the moment by this goverment like my retied parents and i ,we are being shafted etrxa big time.

Like myself and in time this will include everyone on this site. You will start to become old and look towards some real help in life only to find the door slammed in your face after working / paying into the system all your life as you are be bled dry of every thing you worked for.

All politicians always feather their nest. No one does anything for free! I am sure they will have you believing something different, but in the past at least by them doing this, it has benefited a wider scope of hard working people than today’s elected politicians.

To many stupid rules/people creaming it off ,to stop the hard working person who enjoys working and earning a good living has now all but disappear for the working class.

The only Answer! Don’t work for peanuts. Get paid coconuts for free from the state

Yes I blame that clown Brown, for my state of mind at the moment!

(except my apologies if you find that a racial comment it wasn’t intended. The names rime, you see).

Rant over……..Victor has now left the building
 
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YES!!!!!!!


Great.... so you have a family. I don’t, i worked and do not have kids ,so I can save for a more comfortable life and enjoy it some day(my choice). At the moment by this goverment like my retied parents and i ,we are being shafted etrxa big time.

Like myself and in time this will include everyone on this site. You will start to become old and look towards some real help in life only to find the door slammed in your face after working / paying into the system all your life as you are be bled dry of every thing you worked for.

All politicians always feather their nest. No one does anything for free! I am sure they will have you believing something different, but in the past at least by them doing this, it has benefited a wider scope of hard working people than today’s elected politicians.

To many stupid rules/people creaming it off ,to stop the hard working person who enjoys working and earning a good living has now all but disappear for the working class.

The only Answer! Don’t work for peanuts. Get paid coconuts for free from the state

I think you will find that is what the tax credit system is about ie MAKING it more benefical to work than

claim benefits

Yes I blame that clown Brown, for my state of mind at the
moment!


Maybe your right he is different to most politicians in so far that he comes across with a bit of integrity

(except my apologies if you find that a racial comment it wasn’t intended. The names rime, you see).

Rant over……..Victor has now left the building


Maybe you could educate me in what, the Tories have done for the working classes over the ages :)
 
I dont have all the facts on labour , all i do know is that under tories i had a lot of money in my pocket and there was a sense of if you worked hard you would get your rewards,, yet since labour i am constantly chaseing money and it seems that being on the dole is a good life for some people as they get loads.. Cant trust a guy who sells all our gold at rock bottom prices ,, even i know he should have rang GOLD4YOU.COM lol
 
Hey, the government needs money !! Do you think any other party will not be forced to hike taxes ? Its our duty as citizens to help the country when it is in need. Be proud that you can do something.
 
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if not you cant complain
 
Hey, the government needs money !!

Ask yourself why? Maybe it is because we have had 13 years of Labour economic madness. In 13 years of credit fuelled boom Labour have managed to save exactly zero..zilch...nada, for when times got bad. It is now into borrowing teritory 12.4 Billion in Feb!!!!!!! What happened to Prudence?

Do you think any other party will not be forced to hike taxes ?
Yes they will have to.Only because of Labour's disasterous economic policy. But hopefully if the Conservatives get in they will take an axe to the huge amount of waste and limit the tax rises.And hopefully spend OUR taxes in a more efficient way. You can be sure that if Labour get back in it will be more of the same. Thats all they know how to do- tax and spend. Socialist Governments always think they know how to spend your money better than you do.

Its our duty as citizens to help the country when it is in need.
NO!!It might be your duty, it certainly aint mine. I never got into unmanagable debt, spending money I didn't have whilst using my house as a cash machine. So why should I have to pay more and more tax, whilst fat bankers and irresponsible homeowners with whopping mortgages, get bailed out with MY hard earned cash?
Why should I have to pay more tax to repay the national debt that Gordon Clown has run up, in an effort to win the election, rather than deal with economic crisis in this country.
Be proud that you can do something.
Proud of what? Paying more tax. Watching an ever increasing transfer of wealth from the working classes to the rich elite? No thanks. I'll be proud when the general population in this country start to say a BIG FAT NO to what is going on under their noses.
 
Cant trust a guy who sells all our gold at rock bottom prices

And then by his own admmission bought Euros that were becoming stronger in the currency markets thus helping sink the Pound even lower on the world markets

They have been scouring the cupboards to find anything to sell since to support there lavish spending ( it was rumoured they were looking to sell off the government wine cellar)

If this is integrity then I misunderstood the definition

Blair struggled to leave a legacy that he would be remembered by as PM He left us Gordon

Don't think Brown has the same problem He bankrupted UK PLC with his prudence

A historian recently on BBC Question Time summed up the Labour Government that is was now in the same position that is was in 1979, It has emptied all the cupboards and sold everything off there is nothing left and nowhere to go
 
Maybe you could educate me in what, the Tories have done for the working classes over the ages :)

OK, would it have been the same under the Tories? Well that's no argument. Look at Labour's record, we've had virtually 13 years of this shower of ---- in which to do something and they've achieved.:)


Public & Government Debt Reaching an All-time High, the furture or present Government now Has a Monstrous Black Hole to Fill and the Public Will Have to Borrow Even More to Pay for the Coming Tax Increases. You Don’t Need A Brain to Know the Inevitable Abyss is Already on us

We have been lured into debt by a false sense of security & government spin. What all of the experts would tell you if only they dared?

Financial history repeats itself. A period of deflation paired with excessive speculative borrowing causes a crash. Too many civil servants, overt taxation, atrophied manufacturing, too much borrowing, reckless property investment, balance of payment deficit. Maintaining the economy by creating a consumer boom on £1.4trillion of personal debt this will result in an unprecedented personal bankruptcies & increased redundancies. Will you be able to repay your debts? Will your savings be safe or will they be lost by bank rupture?

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This is the continuing outcome off 13 years of Labour government. Cross out the things you have not witnessed first hand, it won’t be much.

POLITICAL NARCISSISTIC DISREGARD OF THE ELECTORATE, WITH YEARS OF DERELICTION AND NEGLECT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM'S INFRASTRUCTURES & MANUFACTURING BASE, CAUSING:

A BREAKDOWN & SOARING COSTS IN:
Manufacturing & Employment - Hospital & General Practice, Dental &
Mental Health Services - Domicile Medical Care - Nursing Homes - Social
Services -Ambulance & Fire Services - Public Healthy & Safety -
Immigration Control - Railway, Aviation, Road Transportation - Industry
& Production - Manufacturing - Employment - Shipping & Dock Services -
Prison & Judicial Services - Postal & Post Office Services – Water,
Gas, Electricity & Oil - Farming & Food - Environmental Safeguards &
Planning - Coastal Defenses - Pollution Control - Waste Disposal -
Water & Sewerage Services - Housing - Architecture & Buildings - Town &
Country Planning - Primary, Secondary & University Education - Tourism
- Quality Control of Food & Drugs - Medical & Scientific Research &
Development - Sporting Facilities – Youth Recreational Facilities;

ACCOMPANIED BY:
Intolerable Taxation ? Stealth Taxation - Central Government Misuse of
Public Funds for Providing Inducements to Public Sector Workers, the
Media & Public Information Services towards Electorate Manipulation -
Selling Off of Public Assets - Corruption by Members of Parliament,
Central & Local Governments for Personal Gain - Mercenary & Fraudulent
Banking Services, Stock Exchange, Corporate, Pension Funds, Insurance
Companies Corruption ? Public Obsession with Consumerism ? Duplicity
for Profit by Estate Agents & Surveyors ? Compromised Legal Profession
? Moderation of Law Enforcement Professionals down to Punitive Revenue
Collectors;

RESULTING IN THE ESCALATION OF:
Public Apathy & Despondency, Pandemic Loss of
Confidence, Distrust & Cynicism of Politicians & Central & Local
Government - Public Sector Employment - Inappropriate Punitive
Legislation to Create a Climate of Fear - Suppression of Personal
Freedom & Independency ? Obstructing & Interference from Government
Agencies in Domestic & Business Life - Dereliction of Industrial Towns
& Cities - Manipulation of National Statistics - Industrial Action -
Unemployment Poverty - Homelessness - Begging - Racial Segregation &
Slums – State Benefits Dependency. Terrorism - Military Action - Crime
- Fraud - Homicide - Suicides - Divorce - Unmarried Mothers - Domestic
Violence - Child Abuse - Fear - Stress - Sickness & Disease -
Prescriptive & Illegal Drug Use - Alcohol & Tobacco Consumption -
Public Demonstrations and Riots - Consumer Debt - Personal & Corporate
Bankruptcies - Property Crash - Residential & Commercial Property
Repossessions ? Sterling Pound Devaluation Compromising its Sovereignty
- Selective Manipulation of Inflation & Deflation - Destruction of
Personal Wealth & Savings - Balance of Payment Deficit - Printing of
Money – Grand Losses in Stocks, Shares , Bonds, Pensions,& Savings with
Insider Trading Commonplace.

NEW LABOUR HAS USED PUBLIC MONEY (TAXES: YOUR MONEY) TO BUY VOTES AND HAS BANKRUPTED OUR UNITED KINGDOM



What`s that you say “Labour has Integrity”

Labour created the word “SPIN” and thats putting it nicey ,The Old working class Labour was reshaped by Mr Blair to create todays, a purely vote winning aftermath.

Guess where Tony Blair is now? Do you think he happy queuing up for this post office pension, perhapes he`s drawing the curtains on his two bed terraced house, full with M&S ,B&Q ,Next trinkets, to hide from the postman? Like most loubour supporters are? Do you think he wakes at 5am, bricking it that the bailiffs will be there at 11 to take away his new shiney processions?

He filled his bucket up with gold along time ago, now reaping all the rewards while holding those dinner parties while cursing on this private yacht.
He was never bothered about anything except himself :cool:



SCOTT F ---- I Await your reply....:p



 
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ok, would it have been the same under the tories? Well that's no argument. Look at labour's record, we've had virtually 13 years of this shower of ---- in which to do something and they've achieved.:)


public & government debt reaching an all-time high, the furture or present government now has a monstrous black hole to fill and the public will have to borrow even more to pay for the coming tax increases. You don’t need a brain to know the inevitable abyss is already on us

we have been lured into debt by a false sense of security & government spin. What all of the experts would tell you if only they dared?

financial history repeats itself. A period of deflation paired with excessive speculative borrowing causes a crash. Too many civil servants, overt taxation, atrophied manufacturing, too much borrowing, reckless property investment, balance of payment deficit. Maintaining the economy by creating a consumer boom on £1.4trillion of personal debt this will result in an unprecedented personal bankruptcies & increased redundancies. Will you be able to repay your debts? Will your savings be safe or will they be lost by bank rupture?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

this is the continuing outcome off 13 years of labour government. Cross out the things you have not witnessed first hand, it won’t be much.

political narcissistic disregard of the electorate, with years of dereliction and neglect of the united kingdom's infrastructures & manufacturing base, causing:

a breakdown & soaring costs in:
manufacturing & employment - hospital & general practice, dental &
mental health services - domicile medical care - nursing homes - social
services -ambulance & fire services - public healthy & safety -
immigration control - railway, aviation, road transportation - industry
& production - manufacturing - employment - shipping & dock services -
prison & judicial services - postal & post office services – water,
gas, electricity & oil - farming & food - environmental safeguards &
planning - coastal defenses - pollution control - waste disposal -
water & sewerage services - housing - architecture & buildings - town &
country planning - primary, secondary & university education - tourism
- quality control of food & drugs - medical & scientific research &
development - sporting facilities – youth recreational facilities;

accompanied by:
intolerable taxation ? Stealth taxation - central government misuse of
public funds for providing inducements to public sector workers, the
media & public information services towards electorate manipulation -
selling off of public assets - corruption by members of parliament,
central & local governments for personal gain - mercenary & fraudulent
banking services, stock exchange, corporate, pension funds, insurance
companies corruption ? Public obsession with consumerism ? Duplicity
for profit by estate agents & surveyors ? Compromised legal profession
? Moderation of law enforcement professionals down to punitive revenue
collectors;

resulting in the escalation of:
public apathy & despondency, pandemic loss of
confidence, distrust & cynicism of politicians & central & local
government - public sector employment - inappropriate punitive
legislation to create a climate of fear - suppression of personal
freedom & independency ? Obstructing & interference from government
agencies in domestic & business life - dereliction of industrial towns
& cities - manipulation of national statistics - industrial action -
unemployment poverty - homelessness - begging - racial segregation &
slums – state benefits dependency. Terrorism - military action - crime
- fraud - homicide - suicides - divorce - unmarried mothers - domestic
violence - child abuse - fear - stress - sickness & disease -
prescriptive & illegal drug use - alcohol & tobacco consumption -
public demonstrations and riots - consumer debt - personal & corporate
bankruptcies - property crash - residential & commercial property
repossessions ? Sterling pound devaluation compromising its sovereignty
- selective manipulation of inflation & deflation - destruction of
personal wealth & savings - balance of payment deficit - printing of
money – grand losses in stocks, shares , bonds, pensions,& savings with
insider trading commonplace.

new labour has used public money (taxes: Your money) to buy votes and has bankrupted our united kingdom



what`s that you say “labour has integrity”

labour created the word “spin” and thats putting it nicey ,the old working class labour was reshaped by mr blair to create todays, a purely vote winning aftermath.

guess where tony blair is now? Do you think he happy queuing up for this post office pension, perhapes he`s drawing the curtains on his two bed terraced house, full with m&s ,b&q ,next trinkets, to hide from the postman? Like most loubour supporters are? Do you think he wakes at 5am, bricking it that the bailiffs will be there at 11 to take away his new shiney processions?

he filled his bucket up with gold along time ago, now reaping all the rewards while holding those dinner parties while cursing on this private yacht.
he was never bothered about anything except himself :cool:



scott f ---- i await your reply....:p



here here
 
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OK, would it have been the same under the Tories? Well that's no argument. Look at Labour's record, we've had virtually 13 years of this shower of ---- in which to do something and they've achieved.:)


Public & Government Debt Reaching an All-time High, the furture or present Government now Has a Monstrous Black Hole to Fill and the Public Will Have to Borrow Even More to Pay for the Coming Tax Increases. You Don’t Need A Brain to Know the Inevitable Abyss is Already on us

We have been lured into debt by a false sense of security & government spin. What all of the experts would tell you if only they dared?

Financial history repeats itself. A period of deflation paired with excessive speculative borrowing causes a crash. Too many civil servants, overt taxation, atrophied manufacturing, too much borrowing, reckless property investment, balance of payment deficit. Maintaining the economy by creating a consumer boom on £1.4trillion of personal debt this will result in an unprecedented personal bankruptcies & increased redundancies. Will you be able to repay your debts? Will your savings be safe or will they be lost by bank rupture?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is the continuing outcome off 13 years of Labour government. Cross out the things you have not witnessed first hand, it won’t be much.

POLITICAL NARCISSISTIC DISREGARD OF THE ELECTORATE, WITH YEARS OF DERELICTION AND NEGLECT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM'S INFRASTRUCTURES & MANUFACTURING BASE, CAUSING:

A BREAKDOWN & SOARING COSTS IN:
Manufacturing & Employment - Hospital & General Practice, Dental &
Mental Health Services - Domicile Medical Care - Nursing Homes - Social
Services -Ambulance & Fire Services - Public Healthy & Safety -
Immigration Control - Railway, Aviation, Road Transportation - Industry
& Production - Manufacturing - Employment - Shipping & Dock Services -
Prison & Judicial Services - Postal & Post Office Services – Water,
Gas, Electricity & Oil - Farming & Food - Environmental Safeguards &
Planning - Coastal Defenses - Pollution Control - Waste Disposal -
Water & Sewerage Services - Housing - Architecture & Buildings - Town &
Country Planning - Primary, Secondary & University Education - Tourism
- Quality Control of Food & Drugs - Medical & Scientific Research &
Development - Sporting Facilities – Youth Recreational Facilities;

ACCOMPANIED BY:
Intolerable Taxation ? Stealth Taxation - Central Government Misuse of
Public Funds for Providing Inducements to Public Sector Workers, the
Media & Public Information Services towards Electorate Manipulation -
Selling Off of Public Assets - Corruption by Members of Parliament,
Central & Local Governments for Personal Gain - Mercenary & Fraudulent
Banking Services, Stock Exchange, Corporate, Pension Funds, Insurance
Companies Corruption ? Public Obsession with Consumerism ? Duplicity
for Profit by Estate Agents & Surveyors ? Compromised Legal Profession
? Moderation of Law Enforcement Professionals down to Punitive Revenue
Collectors;

RESULTING IN THE ESCALATION OF:
Public Apathy & Despondency, Pandemic Loss of
Confidence, Distrust & Cynicism of Politicians & Central & Local
Government - Public Sector Employment - Inappropriate Punitive
Legislation to Create a Climate of Fear - Suppression of Personal
Freedom & Independency ? Obstructing & Interference from Government
Agencies in Domestic & Business Life - Dereliction of Industrial Towns
& Cities - Manipulation of National Statistics - Industrial Action -
Unemployment Poverty - Homelessness - Begging - Racial Segregation &
Slums – State Benefits Dependency. Terrorism - Military Action - Crime
- Fraud - Homicide - Suicides - Divorce - Unmarried Mothers - Domestic
Violence - Child Abuse - Fear - Stress - Sickness & Disease -
Prescriptive & Illegal Drug Use - Alcohol & Tobacco Consumption -
Public Demonstrations and Riots - Consumer Debt - Personal & Corporate
Bankruptcies - Property Crash - Residential & Commercial Property
Repossessions ? Sterling Pound Devaluation Compromising its Sovereignty
- Selective Manipulation of Inflation & Deflation - Destruction of
Personal Wealth & Savings - Balance of Payment Deficit - Printing of
Money – Grand Losses in Stocks, Shares , Bonds, Pensions,& Savings with
Insider Trading Commonplace.

NEW LABOUR HAS USED PUBLIC MONEY (TAXES: YOUR MONEY) TO BUY VOTES AND HAS BANKRUPTED OUR UNITED KINGDOM



What`s that you say “Labour has Integrity”

Labour created the word “SPIN” and thats putting it nicey ,The Old working class Labour was reshaped by Mr Blair to create todays, a purely vote winning aftermath.

Guess where Tony Blair is now? Do you think he happy queuing up for this post office pension, perhapes he`s drawing the curtains on his two bed terraced house, full with M&S ,B&Q ,Next trinkets, to hide from the postman? Like most loubour supporters are? Do you think he wakes at 5am, bricking it that the bailiffs will be there at 11 to take away his new shiney processions?

He filled his bucket up with gold along time ago, now reaping all the rewards while holding those dinner parties while cursing on this private yacht.
He was never bothered about anything except himself :cool:



SCOTT F ---- I Await your reply....:p




A reply to what exactly ? The list of above Labours fault ? Homelessness , Begging .

get a life get, a lay would be better mind :):):)
 
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A reply to what exactly ? The list of above Labours fault ? Homelessness , Begging .

get a life get, a lay would be better mind :):):)

Obviously you can't defend the mess that Labour have got us into then!!
 
A reply to what exactly ? The list of above Labours fault ? Homelessness , Begging .

get a life get, a lay would be better mind :):):)


I used to have a life and a good trade before labour wrecked it, Yep in today’s climate I do need to get laid more often and get plenty tadpoles out there,have as many children as possible, as this is the only way you can have a good life in Britain creaming the social at everyone hard working expense.

Look forward meeting you on site some day child!
 
I used to have a life and a good trade before labour wrecked it, Yep in today’s climate I do need to get laid more often and get plenty tadpoles out there,have as many children as possible, as this is the only way you can have a good life in Britain creaming the social at everyone hard working expense.

Look forward meeting you on site some day child!

I find the above statement interesting.
I'm sorry Labour wrecked your life & good trade. Also surprised.
I've been an electrician since 1981, so 16 years under the Tories and 13 under Labour and I must say that I've prospered far better under Labour than I ever did under the Tories.
We are in a bad way at the moment and maybe it's the fault of Labour but there is still plenty of work out there and I still see a lot well off working people.
I'm afraid I remember all too well the Torie years of total destruction of industries, don't forget they over saw the closing down of our ship building, steel production, coal industry, motor industry and plenty more industrial production devastating whole communities in the precess.
You vote Conservative if you wish (It's a free world) I could never do that.
 

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