Good afternoon all hope all is well, just a quick question to everyone and to get some feedback. How many agree that all domestic properties should have to have a 20% test done each year to comply with building insurance and make homes much safer? All thoughts welcome please gents and ladies!
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Of course you can. Or are you saying you'd be willing to pay any price no matter how high, and no matter how small the possible safety benefit?
I never trust anyone who comes out with comments like this...
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Guest77
I have actually disconnected sockets in houses to conduct tests in the past when a fault has been on a ring, I split the ring to find which half the fault was on, when I tried to reconnect the socket after finding the fault the screws wouldn't tighten and I had to fit a new socket, so your point is not only valid it has been proven, good point Daz
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Guest77
:smilielol5:an electricians nightmare, I wouldn't want to carry out and EICR on your property with you watching, I would be so nervous I wouldn't be able to do the job lol
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Knobhead
I watched the guy doing a gas safe test on my flat yesterday. I know he didn’t cut corners, if fact he was very conscientious.
It took less than an hour, OK there’s only two appliances but he didn’t stint on what he did.
I’m due to have an EICR later this year. It could get interesting. I wonder how long that will take with me watching him to make sure he does what he’s paid to do?
If he tries to put any visible stickers on the CU he’ll be on hospital food for a while.
It took less than an hour, OK there’s only two appliances but he didn’t stint on what he did.
I’m due to have an EICR later this year. It could get interesting. I wonder how long that will take with me watching him to make sure he does what he’s paid to do?
If he tries to put any visible stickers on the CU he’ll be on hospital food for a while.
Spoon how can you say you don't trust someone making a comment like I did? Do you or do you not believe in safety? Do you fit rcbo ' s on circuits that require them? Do you check for cross bonding and bonding to incoming services? I merely stated that you can't put a price on safety and you reply with I can't be trusted!!
I might stop fitting split load boards and rcbo ' s as they cost so much, I got quoted £110+vat today for a square d qo rcbo and I needed 6, the client never batted an eye lid and said if that's the cost that's the cost! All I was stating it could bring up the standards of domestic installs that was all.
Firstly, I work in the industrial sector. I'm a pen pusher so I don't fit anything.
As Tony has pointed out in an earlier post.. Its not about safety, its about money.
I also say that because everyone that has said "you can't put a price on safety" to me has just been interested in getting more money from me. e.g. Why should I spend £80 on a tire for the car, that is 'guaranteed to go 140mph'. £35 are safe enough. Max speed is 70mph here anyhow. Money grabbing people.
If you believe you hype then I take it you vehicle has all the latest safety features. (see some of them below: I'm sure there are more)
ABS - Anti-lock Braking System, EBD - Electinic Break-force Distribution, EBA - Electronic Brake Assist, ESC - Electronic Stability Control, DTC - Dynamic Traction Control, Side Airbags, Lane Departure Warning System, Speed-limiting Devices, Adaptive Headlamps, Backup Cameras, Heated Wiper Blades & Washing Fluid
If not then I'm sure your with your "you can't put a price on safety" spiel then you will instantly go out and upgrade it. Cost is not an issue...
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Guest77
I always use a condom, must be sensitive though, otherwise you may as well wrap some sandwich bags around it lol
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Guest111
Anything involving insurance companies and "discounts" is bound to end up in a rip off! I can't wait 'till next year when I hit 50,my car insurance is £500 a year I've never made a claim and it's just a rip off yet there are loads saying save 80% for drivers over 50,some chance,same with part P when it first came out they said all sorts had to be done by a part P electrician and have paperwork to state this yet nobody went around counting the fittings in every house did they?so long as you have an EICR if you sell the property then fine.Certificates are all well and good if they are done properly,we had our council house done earlier this year and no way was it done properly,it took about 30 minutes,he took off no fronts from anything didn't check the bonding in fact he did very little,despite clear evidence that alterations had been done since the last inspection.I am all for safety but things have to be done for reasons of safety not just as an excuse to make money or use as a get out clause.Insurance companies are well known for using any little thing to get out of not paying,for example did you know that if you fit alloy wheels to your vehicle and don't tell them then they can and will refuse to pay out in the event of a claim,It happened to someone I know.
MerlinGremlin your what price do you put on safety has to be tempered with the potential hazard and risk that may be present to suggest all the homes in the UK need annual inspections is just way over the top
Another way to look at your statement
What price do you put on fear, the fear that something may go wrong, that you need to buy that maintenance contract because you might just might need it as that salesman that cold calls turns the fear screw and hopes you crack. You could replace "What price do you put on fear" with " What price do you put on safety" it's all the same
Another way to look at your statement
What price do you put on fear, the fear that something may go wrong, that you need to buy that maintenance contract because you might just might need it as that salesman that cold calls turns the fear screw and hopes you crack. You could replace "What price do you put on fear" with " What price do you put on safety" it's all the same
What would the scheme cost anyway? Not just what the householders pay, but costs for setting up the regulatory and enforcement regime. Inspections presumably do nothing for safety unless there's mandatory rectification of issues found, so that would need to be fleshed out as well.
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Knobhead
There’s no point adding flesh to what is essentially a horse that’s already been flogged to death. It will just stink more as time goes on.
It’s a madcap idea with no other purpose other than it’s an easy money maker.
It crops up here about once a year like a hardy annual.
It’s a madcap idea with no other purpose other than it’s an easy money maker.
It crops up here about once a year like a hardy annual.
I've got to fuel in my car somehow and my porsche cayenne is abit thirsty due to the turbo.
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Knobhead
You should get together with the guy that was asking about I&T mobile buildings a while back.
You drive past in one direction while the building is heading in the opposite direction.
This subject crops up time and again, every time the OP gets slated by those with common sense.
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davesparks
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davesparks
Ok but if there is a fault on the neutral then surely you want the RCBO to be detecting that fault and disconnect the live instead of disconnecting the fault yeah? That's how it's supposed to work isn't it, detect a fault in one wire and then disconnect another wire but not the one with the fault on it.
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Knobhead
Something like that.
If people wonder why I don't like RCBO's, Dave's just given the answer.
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davesparks
Clearly he wasn't carrying it out at the approved speed of 40MPH then!
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