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All these old tunes being posted, many of us grew up with these sounds, are you youngsters only just discovering how the Pop industry started???? Still in your defence in the years to come, when most of us have gone to the Wholesalers in the sky, you will be winging on about One Direction or Just a Beaver or whatever he is called.
 
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We were incredibly fortunate! We experienced the true "music revolution"..I am referring to those of us who are in the age range about 55+

However, I know a few teenagers who absolutely love the stuff I do, like Neil Young, Yes, The Stones, Tom Petty, The Who, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Genesis, REM (relative newcomers!)oh, the list just goes on and on...
The advent of the Boy Bands changed the game, and that's fine...but show me the boy band that hasn't "sampled" the old masters...for just one example, Wet Wet Wet, love is all around...yup, the Troggs, from 1966.
I've not mentioned the Beatles, but let's be fair, they were revolutionary and inspired many copiers, like Oasis.
We will be listening to the old guys for ever...long after the newbies have gone, I believe.
How likely is Justin Beiber to be gigging in his 70s? Or any of the new wonder bands and artistes manufactured to win TV shows?
Will anybody ever listen to John Denver or James Taylor in 20 years from now?
I think so...
 

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what i can't understand is these so called "boy bands" and "girl bands". titles. bands play instruments, not glorified krapioke singers screeching to a backing track. all these current female pop divas sound like cats mating, but without the harmony.
 

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Putting Rap to one side (the very far side) because I have never considered it music,there is now and always has been good music throughout and even since the advent of radio for the masses
The only difference between the times is newness,creativity is based on finding something new to produce,the sixties + seventies was as if the younger generation had discovered this enormous land where songs could be found in all genres,it was discovered by so many playing and composing what they sang and at the forefront was the genius of the Beatles

These days composing is done as if its churned out from preset machinery sitting in factories of Hit making,the individual who composes and performs his own material is nowadays thought of as some sort of genius of his times,the likes of Ed Shearan would probably have been just another of the so many talented pool if he were of the sixties or seventies,lucky old Ed eh,he is a big fish in a very small pond instead of being a sardine in a ocean of marine life
were he of a earlier time
 

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We were incredibly fortunate! We experienced the true "music revolution"..I am referring to those of us who are in the age range about 55+

However, I know a few teenagers who absolutely love the stuff I do, like Neil Young, Yes, The Stones, Tom Petty, The Who, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Genesis, REM (relative newcomers!)oh, the list just goes on and on...
The advent of the Boy Bands changed the game, and that's fine...but show me the boy band that hasn't "sampled" the old masters...for just one example, Wet Wet Wet, love is all around...yup, the Troggs, from 1966.
I've not mentioned the Beatles, but let's be fair, they were revolutionary and inspired many copiers, like Oasis.
We will be listening to the old guys for ever...long after the newbies have gone, I believe.
How likely is Justin Beiber to be gigging in his 70s? Or any of the new wonder bands and artistes manufactured to win TV shows?
Will anybody ever listen to John Denver or James Taylor in 20 years from now?
I think so...
Don't forget the best the Moodies, the Who, Quo, and the rest,David Gilmore, Kinks, Shads, The Floyd now you'e talkin, sugest all the wannabes tyry listening to some decent Music instead of all this made up carp they call music these days, load of old tosh.
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Don't forget the best the Moodies, the Who, Quo, and the rest,David Gilmore, Kinks, Shads, The Floyd now you'e talkin, sugest all the wannabes tyry listening to some decent Music instead of all this made up carp they call music these days, load of old tosh.

Here you are Pete
And what's wrong with that??????????????????????
 

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Love you long time, rapparee!
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Pete999, I agree wholeheartedly! Just didn't have time to list them all...
Back in those days the bands wrote the lyrics, the music, and actually played their instruments...everything was new.
Nowadays...studio-produced crap. Many of those famous guys (and gals) wrote music for other folks too, they were true innovators.
Nowadays, it's like Tesco...you buy what is on the shelf. Clothes and fashion? The same.
Not me...I still wear flared jeans and loon pants and when I stand on my hair i go for a trim!
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Oh! Love him or hate him, leonard cohen was simply amazing!
 
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Oh, again!
Just for fun!
Anyone a fan of the Doobie Brothers?
Here is your pub quiz question, and no cheating!!!
On the album, The Captain and Me, there is a track which is not listed on the sleeve (we're talking LP here!) but is listed on the label stuck to the record itself...it's an instrumental...
what is the track called?
 

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a short bit of the Doorsjust for any newbies that's not seen it.
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Oh, again!
Just for fun!
Anyone a fan of the Doobie Brothers?
Here is your pub quiz question, and no cheating!!!
On the album, The Captain and Me, there is a track which is not listed on the sleeve (we're talking LP here!) but is listed on the label stuck to the record itself...it's an instrumental...
what is the track called?
was it busted down around o'connelley corners?
 
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Yes, tel...I also missed out The Eagles, Colisseum, Billy Joel, Manfred Mann, Carole King, and hundreds of others!
I have to admit I am a Dolly fan too!
If I had to choose a more recent female artist, it would be:


With over 382 million views, I have to confess that most of them were me...
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Well done Tel!
I'll buy you several pints when we meet!
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I have to believe that you actually knew that, Tel!
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No offence to danny199, but this is a better thread than Trench depth-Clarification
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Loved that video, Tel!
Just brilliant!
 
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Don't forget the best the Moodies, the Who, Quo, and the rest,David Gilmore, Kinks, Shads, The Floyd now you'e talkin, sugest all the wannabes tyry listening to some decent Music instead of all this made up carp they call music these days, load of old tosh.
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And what's wrong with that??????????????????????
Probably one of the first manufactured girl bands

They plagiarised Lord Invader


It's been going on for years
 

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Not liking this auto-merge thread thingy...
I'm gonna wait 3 minutes before posting this...
jimmy riddle first!
 

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Bob Dylan plagiarised Dominic Behan's old Republican ballad
 

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Aha! It worked!
(waits 3 minutes.....)
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The problem with the auto-merge is that it kills spontaneity...
OOPS Sorry, missus!
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Damn!
 

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Yes, tel...I also missed out The Eagles, Colisseum, Billy Joel, Manfred Mann, Carole King, and hundreds of others!
I have to admit I am a Dolly fan too!
If I had to choose a more recent female artist, it would be:


With over 382 million views, I have to confess that most of them were me...
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Well done Tel!
I'll buy you several pints when we meet!
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I have to believe that you actually knew that, Tel!
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No offence to danny199, but this is a better thread than Trench depth-Clarification
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Loved that video, Tel!
Just brilliant!
shakira.......
 

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Just had a look at the new posts...crikey!
I'll never get through them all today...
Guys, get a grip! there's some serious stuff here!
 

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Aha! It worked!
(waits 3 minutes.....)
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The problem with the auto-merge is that it kills spontaneity...
OOPS Sorry, missus!
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Damn!
yep.can't make sense out of your last post. it's all auto merge and can't see what you're answering to.
 

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Country and Western, Tel?
Where have you been?
It's just "Country" now...so glad I spelled that right...
really tall blonde ladies and tiny wee blokes in big hats!

Non PC joke coming up...
 

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Yes, Pete, and I really needed it!
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Slim Pickins
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Some of those USA golfers though...

Bubba Watson (really? Bubba?)
Brandt Snedecker
Kitten Woods
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Please, Dan...stop this merging nonsense!
There's critical literary acclaim going to waste here!
(three, four, five...and)
POST!
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BUGR!
Beat me again!
 
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littlespark

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Devil's Advocate.

The old stuff isn't any "better" than new music. Its just a fondness for nostalgia. You cant say no one will remember todays music in 20 years time, because you just don't know.
There was just as much rubbish music in the sixties than there is now, but you don't remember them, just the good stuff.

The same thing was said about the 60's back in the 80's.... but people remember that just as fondly.

Even in the sixties, older people would have said "Rolling Stones??? its not as good as Glen Miller"
Would any of those bands have been so popular if it wasn't for the drugs they were taking at the time to make them more "cool"?

Music is music. Some not to everyones taste, but its entertainment.
 

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there was some crap in the 60's, ( sandy shaw, silla black, dana, abba, etc.), OK. but a small percentage . these days it's all crap except for a few exceptions.
 

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I am one to readilly admit,there is good music now,same as there as always been good music

Its just that in the sixties and seventies the new music was fresh,the class acts were far more abundant and the measure of great talent was more worthy

There is no comparison whatsoever between the standard generally of todays music and what was around in olden times
Its only comparable to those who did not experience those times
 

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Is that a ZZ Top tribute band?

(Just joking!)
 

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there was some crap in the 60's, ( sandy shaw, silla black, dana, abba, etc.), OK. but a small percentage . these days it's all crap except for a few exceptions.
How dare you Tel
 

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Yes, Pete, and I really needed it!
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Slim Pickins
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Some of those USA golfers though...

Bubba Watson (really? Bubba?)
Brandt Snedecker
Kitten Woods
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Please, Dan...stop this merging nonsense!
There's critical literary acclaim going to waste here!
(three, four, five...and)
POST!
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BUGR!
Beat me again!
Just click edit on your post instead - and add whatever it is you want to say to that. Why post 5 different posts in reply to the same thread one after the other?
 

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I really feel like stirring this up a bit more.

There is no comparison whatsoever between the standard generally of todays music and what was around in olden times
Contradiction. whatsoever 100%.... generally means not quite 100%

there was some crap in the 60's, ( sandy shaw, silla black, dana, abba, etc.)
3/4 of them were Eurovision song contest acts. Is that your musical taste, tel?


The problem nowadays is overexposure. Too many radio stations, music tv and spotify, iTunes etc
The modern singer/songwriter such as Ed Sheeran becomes too big, they get played every two minutes on the radio and people become bored with them.

The "manufactured" boy band has been around forever. Ok, Lennon/Macartney wrote their own stuff, and sang and played instruments... but once they were signed to a label, they had to do what they were told. Wear this, go there etc...
The Monkees famously being the first labelled as "manufactured" but it went on before them.

The music industry has changed. Talent has changed. Is someone that can play guitar any more talented than someone who can take any recorded, electronic noise and samples to make an original song?
Its just progress/ innovation
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Ok OK.… After killing this thread, I started watching TV... The MTV Video Music Awards....
What an absolute load of crap!

I take back everything I said. oldies are better. todays music is garbage:cool:
 
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No! Sorry, Littlespark...but no!
Who can just sample and be legendary?
Who can be Jimi?
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Pink Floyd?
or Rick Wakeman?

Unique talent will always breed pretenders...they may have appeal, but they are not original, imho.
However, as I am in my dotage, forgive me my nostalgia, please.
Ed Sheeran?
Pub singer!
good one, I grant you...and very talented at what he does, and he does move a younger generation, so he is an example of a new generation...
but the old rockers are still rocking...
Black Sabbath still on tour!

Not the class act they once were, nor Wishbone Ash, nor Argent...but they still fill the halls and the dance-floors and we who love them all still caress the vinyl they created...and it's not nostalgia, it's history.
Thise legends will last forever, and as I said earlier, they ar garnering a new following amongst the youngh, for a very good reason...they are great!
 

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This from Instagram:
" My worst nightmare is Spotify randomly throwing out an Ed Sheeran song whilst I'm driving and then i crash and die but it keeps playing so the first responders think I was an Ed Sheeran fan and they tell my mum and I end up being cremated to fkn Shape Of You"

oh yes...we all dread that!
 

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The late 60s-mid 70s saw a technical step cange in music with mixing, sampling, looping all becoming electronic and more common.

The whole game changed and the studio album became the be all and end all, bands had to up their game to play a lot of this stuff live, some they never really could.

They also had an opportunity to revisit past and extant genres and reinterpret them using modern techniques. The beatles The beatles (White Album) is held in such high regard as it really nailed this.

As much as i love this era they were increadibly fortunate to catch the crest of this technological wave, do it to death and set the stage for Punk.
 

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There is much truth in what you say, GBDamo...
We were all incredibly fortunate to catch some amazing live stuff though...I well remember Yes performing Tales from Topographic Oceans live, and it was incredibly complicated...however, when they opened the second half with Roundabout, the roof nearly fell in!
and that was a fine piece of music, never surpassed!
Equalled, yes...but never surpassed.
That was the thing in those days...each classic was just that, a classic...no one better than another, each one a masterpiece!
How many of today's songs could command number one for 11 weeks? I know, it's all about downloads these days, but in the old days folks had to vote with their feet and money...
Oh, I'm just a dinosaur!
but...the music was better then!
 

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I think you may find current teenagers are sourcing music away from the main steam contrived reconstituted commercial controlled carp that is fed down our throats via the main media channels that us old foggies still listen to. Can’t beat the 80’s in my opinion but my parents used to hate a lot of the new wave and punk racket having grown up in the 50’s and 60’s. There’s some good new stuff out there but unfortunately if it’s not backed by the big boys or composed by Ed Sheran we don’t get to hear it.
 

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much as i don't like mowtown, can anyone seriously compare the splice girls to the supremes. ? it's like comparing sewer content to tap water.
 

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weren't the supremes, and most of Motown, also manufactured? They didn't write songs or play instruments... just sang and danced around a bit.
Same goes for any modern girl group you could mention.
I only watch Little Mix videos to admire the camera work;)
 

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As a sop to the younger crowd and as a testament to my thinking that older does not mean better, here is a newer version of a song that's better than the original and no its not written or sung by Edsisname

Spirit in the Sky

Had to add a comment that was made about this track on YouTube
MY NEIGHBORS LIKE THIS SO MUCH THEY THREW A BRICK THROUGH MY WINDOW SO THEY COULD HEAR IT BETTER
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Country and Western, Tel?
Where have you been?
It's just "Country" now...so glad I spelled that right...
really tall blonde ladies and tiny wee blokes in big hats!
You forgot about legendary rock bands who don't have any female members and don't wear big hats. :)

 

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It’s whatever floats you boat. I like all sorts of music. It’s good that all champion their particular poison.

I just like a catchy tune, be it Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Johnny Cash, Strauss, ABBA (they weren’t from the 60’s @telectrix tish), The Wiggles, Marry Poppins, Moody Blues or Lindisfarne, Des O’Conner ( stretching things), The Monkees, or Bohemian Rhapsody. Roger Whittaker just whistled:)
 

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Val Doonican?
what a guy!
 
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