if your for real mate then explain me this................

I have 2360/1, 2360/2, 15th edition, 16th edition, 17th edition and the 2391.

But I don't have the AM2.


According to your sham of an organisation I can not be an approved electrician without a NVQ 3.





The letters to confirm this cost me money.
 
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if your for real mate then explain me this................

I have 2360/1, 2360/2 and the 2391.


According to you sham of an organisation I can not be an approved electrician without a NVQ 3.





The letters to confirmed this cost me money.


Once youve got those though you can apply for a Approved Electricians card due to the fact you have 2391.

What time did you do those 2360's, if you did them before 1996 they exempt you from doing the NVQ level 3


EDIT 2: It appears I have been reading what you said way too fast. If you have Level 2 and 3/part 2 and 3 2360 or 2330 all you need is the Level 3 NVQ
 
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so what does your site say about this then...
3) Must have obtained a pass in the City & Guilds 2360 Electrical Installation Theory Part 2 Course or approved equivalent.

my Btec is a level 3 in electrical installation???
 
okay.........im not going to get involved with this.

The JIB are a scam. They are no different to the scheme providers.

The OP should read his/her reply to me because it is rubbish and contridicts itself.

To NVQ 3 or not NVQ 3 that is the question.


Snore.





I don't need any hassle today, I had enough of that yesterday. Luckly swimming wasn't required.
 
okay.........im not going to get involved with this.

The JIB are a scam. They are no different to the scheme providers.

The OP should read his/her reply to me because it is rubbish and contridicts itself.

To NVQ 3 or not NVQ 3 that is the question.


Snore.





I don't need any hassle today, I had enough of that yesterday.

Not it doesnt. You need an NVQ Level 3 and C&G L2&3 to even be considered for that grade.
 
Ok why are the JIB still using the 16th edition forms for grading, don't you think that it is a little supercilious to expect us to be 17th edition trianed, but you can't be bothered to update forms.

Why if your a gold card electrician for several years, and that person takes the 2391-10, does he still have to get a letter of support from either his employee or a sponsor. I had to sponser a guy that had done a JIB apprenticeship and the Part 1 and 2 which I believe was the old 236, and nearly 25 yrs in the industry, and you would only upgrade him with a letter from me.
 
Could ADMINS Please confirm this guy if Possible and MEMBERS refrain from assuming hes not what he says he is as having a JIB source could assist some guys and also help JIB understand what "the word on the street" is about them
 
Ok why are the JIB still using the 16th edition forms for grading, don't you think that it is a little supercilious to expect us to be 17th edition trianed, but you can't be bothered to update forms.

Why if your a gold card electrician for several years, and that person takes the 2391-10, does he still have to get a letter of support from either his employee or a sponsor. I had to sponser a guy that had done a JIB apprenticeship and the Part 1 and 2 which I believe was the old 236, and nearly 25 yrs in the industry, and you would only upgrade him with a letter from me.

The forms are not done by us and as such only when they do an audit do they change them. For example on the 1st of may all the prices changed so they updated all the forms.

Plus they are going to get rid of the sponsership sometime in the next year since it was always stupid. But its basically so the employer can really decide what grade you want them to have.
 
To save alot of questions, heres the card requirements:

Electrician: C&G Level 2 and 3 & NVQ 3
Approved Electrician: As above + 2391
Technician: As Above + 2400 or 2600
 
To save alot of questions, heres the card requirements:

Electrician: C&G Level 2 and 3 & NVQ 3
Approved Electrician: As above + 2391
Technician: As Above + 2400 or 2600

That does not explain why I have not been given an approved electricians card through your scam of a company.

Here are my qualifications...

2360/1
2360/2
15th edition
16th edition
17th edition
PAT 2377-12
Domestic installers cert level 2
2391
Domestic PV installation 2370-10
AM1


13 years onsite experience.

I also have a degree.






Why can I not be an 'approved' electrician?
 
That does not explain why I have not been given an approved electricians card through your scam of a company.

Here are my qualifications...

2360/1
2360/2
15th edition
16th edition
17th edition
PAT 2377-12
Domestic installers cert level 2
2391
Domestic PV installation 2370-10
AM1


13 years onsite experience.

I also have a degree.






Why can I not be an 'approved' electrician?



You've not done AM2 so you can't join screwfux...... or whatever this thread is about!!
 
That does not explain why I have not been given an approved electricians card through your scam of a company.

Here are my qualifications...

2360/1
2360/2
15th edition
16th edition
17th edition
PAT 2377-12
Domestic installers cert level 2
2391
Domestic PV installation 2370-10
AM1


13 years onsite experience.

I also have a degree.






Why can I not be an 'approved' electrician?
You cannot get approved without getting electrician first, and you cannot get electrician without an NVQ level 3.

Alternatly you can go down the detailed job references route but that wont gaurentee you a grade.
 
Why would I be stupid enough to do that ;)

And anyway its ecscard.org.uk.

My turn now!

Why the hell is the ECS card application form so long and confusing!?
It's like you don't want any younger trainee tradesman (or anyone else for that matter)
making their way into the trade!
 
My turn now!

Why the hell is the ECS card application form so long and confusing!?
It's like you don't want any younger trainee tradesman (or anyone else for that matter)
making their way into the trade!

Its actually really not confusing, its because we use the same form for everything pretty much. Renewals are sections 1, 2, 3 and 13. And everything else is described on the form next to the section number. Plus you can give us a call whenever you need help with something on the form and whoever you go through to can point you in the right direction.
 
You cannot get approved without getting electrician first, and you cannot get electrician without an NVQ level 3.

Alternatly you can go down the detailed job references route but that wont gaurentee you a grade.

So what you're saying is SMB's not a qualified SPARK!!!!
But the JIB give some sort of card (not a gold one) to NICEIC DI's!!! Coz they is more qualified than SMB like... they did a whole 5 days init

NO OFFENCE TO NICEIC DI'S!!!
 
RWJ...your post made me smile.

Its fairly unlikely that I would fail the AM2.

Its fairly unlikely I would have failed it 20 years ago when micc and metal conduit were part of it. But by that time I was a self-employed father who was skint and couldn't afford to spent my money on the AM2. I must admit though, its something I regret.
 
So what you're saying is SMB's not a qualified SPARK!!!!
But the JIB give some sort of card (not a gold one) to NICEIC DI's!!! Coz they is more qualified than SMB like... they did a whole 5 days init

NO OFFENCE TO NICEIC DI'S!!!

Domestic installer cards are totally different. Grades are not really dependant on the colour, the grading is defined under the part that says "JIB Grading:" and as such you can infact get gold cards without any grading.
 

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