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Are you actually using them for pump valves?

If so save yourself the grief and get a pair of these.


Now, not the most cost effective but as I got sent two by mistake from Amazon all's good.

I also have the pump pliers but have never used them on pumps, as I have the above.
 
Bahco non=slip. i have 2 of them brilliant.
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no contest. bahco all the way.you know where the name knipex came from..... coz they knip your hands, and ex is blood exiting your body.
 
Another vote for Bahco, I've got quite a few of their tools and they're very well made.
 
With the Bahco ones, you don't need to press the button to make the jaws closer, only wider. This makes them quicker to use. You just slide the handles closer and it ratchets closer.

On my Knipex Pliers Wrench (the smooth jaw ones), the adjustment is too fine, I find them fiddly to use. Not sure if that is the same for the waterpump pliers or not.
 
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Cheers and yeah will be using for armoured glands and tightening couplers bushes etc. Im torn between bahco and knipex

Then these


They do smaller, I also have these and the smaller ones for locknuts, glands etc...
 
so many cases where you can't get any make of grips in to tighten locknuts, due to lack of clearance. that's where the hammer and cheap screwdriver is king.
 
so many cases where you can't get any make of grips in to tighten locknuts, due to lack of clearance. that's where the hammer and cheap screwdriver is king.
The Bahco ones I use have a taper to the jaws.
If you lay that taper flat to the surface the lock ring is on, it lifts the handle so it misses most obstructions.
The thin jaws can get between the surface and the nut which means you can tighten or loosen the gland without touching the nut.
Can’t recall the last time I had to use a hammer and screwdriver on a gland.
 
the problem is when the gland is so close to the structure of the enclosure. on some i've even had problems getting a locknut on, knockout being so close to the back of the box. even had to use a lock ring on several occasions,
 
the problem is when the gland is so close to the structure of the enclosure. on some i've even had problems getting a locknut on, knockout being so close to the back of the box. even had to use a lock ring on several occasions,
Wedging something in between the nut and the obstruction usually does it for me.
 
Wedging something in between the nut and the obstruction usually does it for me.

I have modded a couple of pairs of thin-jaw Bahco adjustables,by further grinding and altering the jaw profile,for certain jobs. They are invaluable,and without adding tubes and grunting,have not suffered any strain evidence.

I know it won't be popular,but i have been doing this mod since i was a kid,on a plumbers advice...my first being a round jawed Bahco,someone threw at me dad,at a football match:confounded: ground over a morning,using a giant,aluminium bodied Wolf 9" grinder :)

PS; if you grind a pair,alter them on opposing sides,to leave the option of untouched faces working,flush together,when a pair are matched. It also is sometimes beneficial,to have a choice,for access reasons.
 
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