Dam speed camera van (robbing *******s)

[Spoon]

That is a bit extreme but I could go with your suggestion but only if before the go around using them guns on the public they are qualified in there use by first doing some test firing and alignment practicing outside local signing-on centres ....

I was thinking of having the gun automated. Picking the engine through the heat source. Just have to worry about left or right side driving seats. Quite a few foreign cars on our street. Need to take out the driver and not the passenger. Sometimes the passenger is innocent.

 

[egg67]

I used to speed all the time, nothing like doing 150mph on two wheels but did it on race tracks when on roads always stay to speed limit, never had points and spent 6 mouths driving 7.5 tone lorry around London and surrey delving donuts just learnt what speed limit applied to vehicle driving at time, do not think there is a bit leeway as its up to the person thats nicking you do fell sorry for when you get a ticket in a 60 when doing 61

 

[Guest111]

I used to speed all the time, nothing like doing 150mph on two wheels but did it on race tracks when on roads always stay to speed limit, never had points and spent 6 mouths driving 7.5 tone lorry around London and surrey delving donuts just learnt what speed limit applied to vehicle driving at time, do not think there is a bit leeway as its up to the person thats nicking you do fell sorry for when you get a ticket in a 60 when doing 61

That's precisely it, I know certain coppers who haven't got a problem with high speeds on quiet motorways in good weather,I also know some who'll stop you and give you a warning if you're not doing really daft speeds,then again I know others who'll nick you for a couple of mile over the limit,There was one who did me once,a quiet road and I thought it was a 40 when in fact it was a 30,late at night not a soul about,I thought he was a right git until I was talking to another copper who knew him and apparently he'd nearly lost his foot in an accident involving a speeding motorist.

 

[Spoon]

The police are the people who have to go and sort things out when there are crashes due to people speeding. They have to go to someones house and tell them that their son, daughter, wife was been killed cause of a speeding motorist hit them. I couldnt do that. They have to see all the pain these people cause. Dont get at the police for stopping people speeding, get at the scum who speed.

 

[Badged01]

Dont get at the police for stopping people speeding, get at the scum who speed.

I think thats the problem with the image the police have. Everyone knows someone who has been done for 32 in a 30 zone or seen the speed van covertly tucked away ready to 'snap' the driver on the stretch of road where the speed limit changes suddenly!

Then they see in the news, this burgled, that robbed, someone raped etc ... and no-one is caught or prosecuted. It gives the impression (right or wrong) that the police are more set on punishing the motorist for finacial gain than sorting out the other issues!

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...... and perception then becomes reality!

 

[Spoon]

I think thats the problem with the image the police have. Everyone knows someone who has been done for 32 in a 30 zone or seen the speed van covertly tucked away ready to 'snap' the driver on the stretch of road where the speed limit changes suddenly!

Then they see in the news, this burgled, that robbed, someone raped etc ... and no-one is caught or prosecuted. It gives the impression (right or wrong) that the police are more set on punishing the motorist for finacial gain than sorting out the other issues!

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...... and perception then becomes reality!

Thats the news for you, like to spread bad news and as for the people bleating on about police hiding their vans and other rubbish excuses they come up with then the simple fact is, if you are not speeding then you wont get fined.

 

[Badged01]

..... the simple fact is, if you are not speeding then you wont get fined.

Thats true! Ive always wondered though should everybody keep to speed limits would the police (or whoever pays) still keep shelling out money for upkeeping the static speed cameras and paying the costs for the man & his van in the layby. They are there as a safety precaution and deterrents as well im told, so it would be interesting to see if they still kept them or would the loss of revenue soon have them gone?

Unfortunately we will never know as there will always be speeders but not me ..... my licence has been squeeky clean for 25+ years of undetected crime!

 

[Spoon]

As you say Badged, we will never know. People dont think speeding is bad.. same as people going through red lights. There are always ----ers about that will come up with any excuse. No one about.. late at night... The thicko's dont seem to realise that these rules are for their own good as well. Going 50 in a 30 at midnight and no-one is around and hit a pot-hole. Car swerves and hits a wall killing the driver. Im not a nice man in this respect cause I have a similar thought for people who drink and drive. If they snuff it cause of their actions then I dont care, just one more off the street. At least its them rather than some innocent person.

 

[Knobhead]

I’ll admit to jumping red lights and doing 60+ in a 30 zone at 02:00.

The wife was in labour on the back seat of the car.

Got stopped, I pointed to the back seat, we had a police escort after that. Four minutes after arriving at the hospital I was holding my son. The police even parked the car and brought me the keys.

 

[NickD]

speed in itself doesn't kill, it's coming to a sudden stop which kills

But you can't some to a sudden stop (sudden enough for Isaac Newton to hurt you, anyway) unless you are doing a speed, and the higher the speed the more sudden the stop. That's like pointing out that technically speaking it's not the jumping off the multistorey car park that kills you.

 

[NickD]

If you read the story rather than say the speed camera "killed" him, you will see that he was actually speeding which made him brake hard. Stick to the speed limit and he wouldn't have been killed.

If he was doing 30mph over the speed limit and a car which couldn't have seen him coming pulled out, causing him to break and crash, would it be the car's fault?

 

[NickD]

The police are the people who have to go and sort things out when there are crashes due to people speeding. They have to go to someones house and tell them that their son, daughter, wife was been killed cause of a speeding motorist hit them. I couldnt do that. They have to see all the pain these people cause. Dont get at the police for stopping people speeding.

People are all in favour of tough zero tolerance policing, right up to the point where it's their offence the police have zero tolerance for...

 

[Guest111]

People are all in favour of tough zero tolerance policing, right up to the point where it's their offence the police have zero tolerance for...

I always said that if I was done for speeding by a police car following me then I should be done for driving without due care simply because if I was paying proper attention I'd have seen him come up behind me.I'd be more worried about my standards of driving slipping than getting a ticket.

 

[NickD]

I always said that if I was done for speeding by a police car following me then I should be done for driving without due care simply because if I was paying proper attention I'd have seen him come up behind me.

Even more so if you speed past a fixed speed camera which is a) signposted in advance and b) luminous DayGlo yellow. Miss that and you can certainly miss a sign saying SCHOOL and a child in a grey school uniform.

 

[Badged01]

People are all in favour of tough zero tolerance policing, right up to the point where it's their offence the police have zero tolerance for...

Bit like working for Brits living in Spain!. The all like the "manyana" lifestyle until it comes to having some done for them. Then it needs to be done immediately and to what they expected in the UK ........

 

[Adam W]

But you can't some to a sudden stop (sudden enough for Isaac Newton to hurt you, anyway) unless you are doing a speed, and the higher the speed the more sudden the stop. That's like pointing out that technically speaking it's not the jumping off the multistorey car park that kills you.

Yes the trick is to avoid the sudden stop altogether, such as being able to identify a hazard and adjust the speed accordingly; being distracted by people lurking in the bushes doesn't help that.
Jumping out of an aeroplane is perfectly safe provided the parachute opens, but if it doesn't the person will be killed. Does this mean jumping out of aeroplanes for recreational reasons be banned just in case?

 

[Badged01]

Does this mean jumping out of aeroplanes for recreational reasons be banned just in case?

Of course, why would you want to leave a perfectly serviceable aircraft?

 

[Adam W]

If he was doing 30mph over the speed limit and a car which couldn't have seen him coming pulled out, causing him to break and crash, would it be the car's fault?

"Pulled out" from where exactly? Whatever arguments are used for not driving above 50mph on that stretch of road could be applied to further up the road where the speed limit is 70mph; who is to say that driving at 70mph is safe one minute but dangerous the next while under the same conditions?

 

[Plonker 3]

It's not, that is the maximum permitted speed. Doesn't mean you have to drive at that speed.

 

[Adam W]

I’ll admit to jumping red lights and doing 60+ in a 30 zone at 02:00.

The wife was in labour on the back seat of the car.

Got stopped, I pointed to the back seat, we had a police escort after that. Four minutes after arriving at the hospital I was holding my son. The police even parked the car and brought me the keys.

All good and well if you're stopped by a human policeman, but had you been snapped by a 'safety' camera you could have lost your licence - "rules are rules" after all.