Dopey First Post

[gbrad]

Apologise for my ignorance but I'm really new to this game, just recently passed my Part P and 17th.
Anyway I'll get to the point, my missus has gone out and bought a cheap flush fit bathroom light from B&Q for me to swap over.

Took the old one down, straightforward block connector inside it. The new one is where I've got the problem, it doesnt have and connector block, but 2 push in connectors at the back of the lampholder. Havent used one of these before, wanted to know whether to use chokblok and use singles from that into the back of the lampholder as the push connectors look pretty small and I cant see me fitting the existing wires into them. I don't have much cable to play with either so it would be a stretch.

Probably the most basic post in a good while but I havent come across this type of fitting before and I want to make sure I get it right cos I'm sure I'll come across it again.

Probably easier to go buy the fitting myself too next time and get something decent!

 

[DurhamSparky]

ah i see the problem straight away!!!

as detailed below

1) as you described "missus" buying stuff (serious problem)

2) B&Q (not as bad as point 1 but still bad)

3) you say you have done 17th and part P and you don't know how to fit a Light...!! (Massive problem)

im sorry if it feels like im having a dig on point 3


Ok any ways back to the post, why not get some twin and earth and strip it back from the sheath and give your self some "singles" joint them in to chock block that is attached already and then join the "extended cables" in to the push connectors, they probably good for upto 1.5mm solid cable.


steve

curiosity...!! you got a link for the new light from the B&Q site...???

 

[dufjax]

Where you intending to "stick" the chok box?

Hopefully NOT up in the ceiling unprotected

or

NOT in the actual lamp fitting, if it's the type of lamp I think your talking about you might have a problem with heat.


Jim

 

[DurhamSparky]

if it goes in to ceiling i would follow it "via loft" and install a JB or

Click Flow 16 Amp Push-in Connector

nice little nifty piece of kit!!

or just a standard

Chocbox Connector Cover




not sure what light he on about so cant comment on heat etc!!

 

[dufjax]

if it goes in to ceiling i would follow it "via loft" and install a JB or

Click Flow 16 Amp Push-in Connector

nice little nifty piece of kit!!

or just a standard

Chocbox Connector Cover




not sure what light he on about so cant comment on heat etc!!

Good point your on about an approved "chocbox" think gbrad was just talking about connector block. And probably a bit of that electricians tape people think we use for everything.



Can't you sleep Mr Durham Spark... You didn't have the miss fortune of going to the same dodgy indian as me tonight?

Jim

 

[DurhamSparky]

well now you mention


no mate i never had indian but i did have a bad gut all night, and a very very close call with the WET fart!!! had to remove boxers as they got damp!! mixed to gether with other fluid that should have been SOLID was not very pleasant experience!!


was night shifty buddie im a Elec Maintenance Engineer !! i work two jobs as im mad!! the domestic spark is just an enterprise i set up as a bit of fun (expensive) and eventually i hope to grow it..!


what curry you have..... chicken , lamb, beef, dog, cat...?? RAT!!!

 

[High Tower]

Good point your on about an approved "chocbox" think gbrad was just talking about connector block. And probably a bit of that electricians tape people think we use for everything.



Can't you sleep Mr Durham Spark... You didn't have the miss fortune of going to the same dodgy indian as me tonight?

Jim

Its funny you should say that, i dont think i have ever used insulation tape to insulate anything. i mainly use it for taping things together and for identification purps

 

[DurhamSparky]

i use it for wheni wrap cables together in a coil to secure it!! never used it for insulation purose yet!!

steve

 

[High Tower]

White stuff is pretty good for writing on Ie temp labeling

 

[ezzzekiel]

and makes excellent plasters

 

[cbw]

Are you still alive? How did it go?

 

[DurhamSparky]

probably took the light back and re-trained as a plumber!!

 

[Phil]

and makes excellent plasters

it does hold the thumb nail on rather well that I managed to rip off this summer.. again. first time is an accident the second well thats just stupid and it hurts like hell. felt like i had a two foot wide thumb throbbing faster than a 70 year old s heart in a strip bar.

 

[cbw]

Please help, I am gas safe trained and I cannot get this solder to fit underneath the fitting, I have pushed really hard but it just wont go under....

 

[dufjax]

Are you still alive? How did it go?

Not sure he is...

May be we need a new obituaries section for 5day wonders that have past away

Jim

Please help, I am gas safe trained and I cannot get this solder to fit underneath the fitting, I have pushed really hard but it just wont go under....

Thats coz you need the Gas on when soldering!!

Jim

 

[DurhamSparky]

guys do we all not have beds to go too...!!

 

[cbw]

I just cant stop laughing tonight!!!!! What a great crack......Thankyou Mr and Mrs B+Q!

Long live the bread knife and cellotape part p 17th edition sparky

 

[Phil]

no the misses has fallen asleep on the sofa so thats a nice big king size for me to sleep like a star fish when I go up.

 

[DurhamSparky]

must adimit i have had good fun tonight!

better than my day of dragging 16mm 3 core SWA about!!



missus has just got in from work and is not very happy, she along with the rest of her team of very nice police oficers all been given a warning for kicking the wrong door in!!! oops!!

 

[cbw]

How sad am I ....I love terminating SWA....Some sado I guess

 

[DurhamSparky]

is there an easier way of striping the inner sheath of with out

A) using pliers to pull sheath apart
B) scoring a nice line down sheath then noticing you have also scored the conductor!!

 

[Phil]

must adimit i have had good fun tonight!

better than my day of dragging 16mm 3 core SWA about!!



missus has just got in from work and is not very happy, she along with the rest of her team of very nice police oficers all been given a warning for kicking the wrong door in!!! oops!!

I once did that when no one had seen the other halfss uncle for 3 days. bloody one up one down flats. four doors cant tell the difference, poor old bird nearly had a heart attack. turned out his was the other she let me off when i managed to get in and found hime dead in front of the fire. thats another story but 4 days infront of something hot dont make you smell nice

 

[lee sandland]

ah i see the problem straight away!!!

as detailed below

1) as you described "missus" buying stuff (serious problem)

2) B&Q (not as bad as point 1 but still bad)

3) you say you have done 17th and part P and you don't know how to fit a Light...!! (Massive problem)

im sorry if it feels like im having a dig on point 3


Ok any ways back to the post, why not get some twin and earth and strip it back from the sheath and give your self some "singles" joint them in to chock block that is attached already and then join the "extended cables" in to the push connectors, they probably good for upto 1.5mm solid cable.


steve

curiosity...!! you got a link for the new light from the B&Q site...???

Now i know what BUGSY was on about in his thread ??

 

[DurhamSparky]

nice!! had he developed blue bottles or still maggots!!

 

[cbw]

Hmmm Hope Uncle was not Sudbury as I was the Ambulance man that turned out to that!!!

Also kicked a few wrong doors down over the years, those call buttons round the old dears necks, if they forget to take them off when they go to bed, they roll over and set them off. Not a problem if you can hear......if you cant Ambulance and police kick your door in!

 

[Phil]

a nice shade of blue and green i could ov colour matched him with at b and q
and a smell that put me off colslaw forever. yak . the copper turned a funny shade of white when he came running down the stairs to throw up after he had been in for a couple of minutes. poor lad had only just been on dinner break before he got called out

 

[cbw]

Did a 'one under' in Ely they bused a group of student rail officers, The sargent asked us to hang around as he was worried how some of them would react.....I know its sick but it was bloody funny!!!

 

[DurhamSparky]

nice!! rather you than me!

any ways i must go to bed as i got a bloody great big wall to drill the poo out of tomorrow as teh customer wants to see NO CABLE!!!



should be easy inside!! dot n dab walls, rods, switched spur rated at B&Q standard 30A
bit of 2.5 then 1.5 then massive drill bit then drink of water then more drill bit then more water then light on wall!!! easy as sin!!

I know its sick but it was bloody funny!!!

BLOODY!!

i hate them people, i like to travel a-b and back with out been told by BTP that my train is not going any were as its been unethically decorated with kidneys and lungs!!!

 

[kung]

Hello and welcome also.

 

[Jason Smith]

um, er, yep its not there, Checked back through the posts, and its not there definately. No mention of the third wire. due to the nature of the question, we need to discuss this as well. What type of fitting have you got ?

 

[cbw]

I know its naughty but nicked this from another forum, just been posted........Is it Mr and Mrs B+Q Do they live?



.
There are two cables coming out of the ceiling each with red,black and earth wire(just copper). I connected the two red wires together and the two black wires together and then connected them into the block attached to the new light fitting already wired (brown(red) blue(black) and green/yellow(earth).
What have I done wrong ?

 

[Phil]

I saw that one earlier was rolling around. why the hell cant people leave things they know naff all about well alone. i am no mechanic so i would not dream of fitting brake pipes, safety and all that? maybee i should have a go with the boiler or play with a bomb. they need to learn to know their limits stick to them and get somone in for the bits they cant do