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Anyone got any ideas on why there would be 3 phase going into a 3 bed house?
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if the wiring is in good condition, then there's no need for a rewire. maybe advise them to rewire the lightsalone, but as long as youensure insulated switches andlignts, no problem.I’ve been telling them this for over 10 years to no avail. They don’t want the mess which is understandable. They are both in their 60s so I can’t see them ever having it done.
I told my father this before he went ahead and put all new metal switches on the whole of downstairs because they “look nicer”. Head + brick wall!was normal for lighting circuits to not have cpc in 60's builds. if that's the case, it's OK to leave as is, but advise that only plastic fittings and switches should be used. if you take a light switch off, you'll probably see that the lugs for the faceplate screws are nylon, thus insulating the 3.5mm screws from the backbox.
So In terms of the functionality of the rcds, you can’t see this being an issue? I would assume that if any exposed/extraneous conductive parts do become live and someone touches them and creates a fault path, that the rcd will pick up on this imbalance regardless?if the wiring is in good condition, then there's no need for a rewire. maybe advise them to rewire the lightsalone, but as long as youensure insulated switches andlignts, no problem.
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as they say. you can't educate pork.I told my father this before he went ahead and put all new metal switches on the whole of downstairs because they “look nicer”. Head + brick wall!
Up stairs lighting maybe wouldn’t be too much of an issue but downstairs means floorboards up and they won’t have itif the wiring is in good condition, then there's no need for a rewire. maybe advise them to rewire the lightsalone, but as long as youensure insulated switches andlignts, no problem.
and the breers are taking toll.oopss maent beers.ach, gotit rigtht
And they're still like this, and you being a sparky ? Have you been peeking at the will or something ?I told my father this before he went ahead and put all new metal switches on the whole of downstairs because they “look nicer”. Head + brick wall!
yep. RCDs don't need earths/cpc's . the human body provides the earth path to provide the imbalance.So In terms of the functionality of the rcds, you can’t see this being an issue? I would assume that if any exposed/extraneous conductive parts do become live and someone touches them and creates a fault path, that the rcd will pick up on this imbalance regardless?
Not entirely sure how to take thatas they say. you can't educate pork.
Yes they are still like it stubborn as an old goat is my dad. What can I sayAnd they're still like this, and you being a sparky ? Have you been peeking at the will or something ?
Lovely stuff! So as long as I make a note of it on the doc and the ---- pile of other stuff I’m sure to find, my --- is covered?yep. RCDs don't need earths/cpc's . the human body provides the earth path to provide the imbalance.
having just read post#31, maybe i should have said goat instead of pork.Not entirely sure how to take that
So In terms of the functionality of the rcds, you can’t see this being an issue? I would assume that if any exposed/extraneous conductive parts do become live and someone touches them and creates a fault path, that the rcd will pick up on this imbalance regardless?
Be stubborn back then. Tell him no board swap unless cpc added or at the very least all metal accessories changed to plastic.Yes they are still like it stubborn as an old goat is my dad. What can I say
you go to work on an ---? i thought even essex had horses these days.Lovely stuff! So as long as I make a note of it on the doc and the **** pile of other stuff I’m sure to find, my --- is covered?
If I end up changing the board I will remove all the metal switches and replace with Plastic while he’s not looking. Like I say though, for arguments sake, the rcd will still protect against this? Only problem being I can’t really test the theory out without an earth?just check the other circuits. bet you they all have cpc's. then if they insist on metal switches, check that their wills are in order.
A note on a cert cannot excuse you from the responsibility of not doing your job properly or leaving an unsafe condition.Lovely stuff! So as long as I make a note of it on the doc and the **** pile of other stuff I’m sure to find, my --- is covered?
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