Help please... phone and internet extension

[saint]

This is not my area so any help with a solution to this would be appreciated..

I have two lines coming into my house both coming into the front of the house. Line A is my house/business line and also has the broad band on it. Line B is my wife business line.

The internet router (BT) is in the same room where the two lines come in at the front of the house, which is my office.

Going away from Line B to three slave phone lines is a phone cable (4 pairs) which i put in about eight years ago. The last if the three slaves which is yet to be terminated is my wife office which is a small building separate to the house.

I need to get phone line B to my wife office and also internet. Can some one help with a solution to this please to save me some ear ache from the misses!

hope all this makes sense!

many thanks

 

[SparkyChick]

I'd run a normal phone cable from line B that's suitable for exterior use to the remote office.

For the internet, you can get external Cat5e and steel armoured Cat5e. Take your pick. Run that from your office to hers. Terminating it you have a couple of choices. Either get an RJ45 crimper and some RJ45 connectors and crimp a plug on the end of the cable in your office and plug it in to the router (if you've not got enough ports, time to get a small network switch) or terminate it in a wall mounted socket and get some patch cables to connect that to the router.

At the other end, you have the same choices. I've just quoted for something like this, and I'm going RJ45 plug on the end near the router and then wall mounted RJ45 socket at the outside office.

Make sure you pick a wiring scheme (T568B I believe is the most common I've encountered) and stick with it. Network cabling is pretty straight forward once you have the right tooling.

 

[Octopus]

I'm assuming you have power in your garden office so you should be able to use powerline adaptors .............. as for the phone - some outdoor BT cable is probably the best way but not too close to the power going to the shed.

 

[saint]

Thanks very much for the quick replies. Have tried the power line adaptors but the internet connection is pretty poor.

Sparkychick, i have plenty of ports in the router in my office so no problem there. but is there any way you can think of to use the existing phone cable running from master B to wife office to run phone and internet. i.e. blue/blue and white/ orange for the phone. Then use the remaining cores to some how connect the router to the wife office?

Running a separate cat5e to the office now is gonna be a problem due to new drive etc..

 

[Octopus]

^^ when you tried the powerline - were you using the wifi extenders or hard wired connections?

 

[SparkyChick]

Thanks very much for the quick replies. Have tried the power line adaptors but the internet connection is pretty poor.

Sparkychick, i have plenty of ports in the router in my office so no problem there. but is there any way you can think of to use the existing phone cable running from master B to wife office to run phone and internet. i.e. blue/blue and white/ orange for the phone. Then use the remaining cores to some how connect the router to the wife office?

Running a separate cat5e to the office now is gonna be a problem due to new drive etc..

If you'd got a Cat5e cable running up there, then the answer would probably be yes, you can use the unused cores to carry a phone line. It's unorthodox, but it can be done. Unfortunately I don't think doing the same with ethernet on a phone cable would work too well.

In the situation where you can't run a cable, you could get a point to point wireless system. They come in at around £70 for each node (you'd obviously need two) and they would require PoE (Power over ethernet) injectors to supply power to them down the Cat5e.

 

[saint]

The one i had does wifi and hard wire but wifi was the only one tried. i guess hard wire will get a better signal. ?

I have also heard that they don't like crossing rcd's. so I'm my case, rcd protecting sockets in my office is obviously different to the rcd in the wife office.

 

[Octopus]

The one i had does wifi and hard wire but wifi was the only one tried. i guess hard wire will get a better signal. ?

I have also heard that they don't like crossing rcd's. so I'm my case, rcd protecting sockets in my office is obviously different to the rcd in the wife office.

I would try the hard wired ones - but you are 100% correct, RCD's and RCBO's can cause issues with them - not that the manufacturers admit.

Got to be worth a try with the hard wired unit - what make have you tried?

 

[saint]

I have only tried Devolo

 

[Octopus]

I have only tried Devolo

Ok. These are the ones I have used ............ so get a single hard wired unit and see what happens.... I found the wifi worse on them that hard wired links.

What speeds are indicated by the devolo cockpit?

 

[saint]

Sorry Murdoch, i don't know what you are asking me there..... i'll try hard wiring the Devolo and see how i get on. cheers.

 

[Octopus]

Sorry Murdoch, i don't know what you are asking me there..... i'll try hard wiring the Devolo and see how i get on. cheers.

When you install the devolo powerline adaptors, you need to install their "cockpit" - this shows the adaptors on your network and the speeds between them.

devolo Cockpit - Software for your home network. - http://www.devolo.com/en/dLAN-software/devolo-Cockpit-simple-powerline-network-configuration