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Hello, Looking for advice on how much to bill out of apprentice electrician on jobs. Do you have a % to add on to their rate to allow for expensies, PAYE, NI, Holiday pay etc?
 
Presumably the apprentice won't be left on his/her own ,I would charge the sparks and apprentice as One unit cost. For example 1 sparks + 1 apprentice = X
 
Presumably the apprentice won't be left on his/her own ,I would charge the sparks and apprentice as One unit cost. For example 1 sparks + 1 apprentice = X

I would guess though the apprentice might be at college some days? Maybe half your rate would be appropriate? How much are you paying the apprentice? If you consider a painter and decorator which is unskilled (Although I am sure some would argue otherwise) want about £120-£150 a day, same with like a window cleaner then I think charging £100 a day for a skilled apprentice would be acceptable.

Personally I would not call them an apprentice in the invoice or customers, I would call them electricians mate...
 
I would guess though the apprentice might be at college some days? Maybe half your rate would be appropriate? How much are you paying the apprentice? If you consider a painter and decorator which is unskilled (Although I am sure some would argue otherwise) want about £120-£150 a day, same with like a window cleaner then I think charging £100 a day for a skilled apprentice would be acceptable.

Personally I would not call them an apprentice in the invoice or customers, I would call them electricians mate...
Hi. Would probably be SJIB rates so £5.66 for year 1 i think. I was wondering if there was a quick rule of thumb say, rate x factor = chargeable rate. Where the factor allows for college days, holidays, NI etc
 
I would guess though the apprentice might be at college some days? Maybe half your rate would be appropriate? How much are you paying the apprentice? If you consider a painter and decorator which is unskilled (Although I am sure some would argue otherwise) want about £120-£150 a day, same with like a window cleaner then I think charging £100 a day for a skilled apprentice would be acceptable.

Personally I would not call them an apprentice in the invoice or customers, I would call them electricians mate...
Mates rates then :)
 
Hi. Would probably be SJIB rates so £5.66 for year 1 i think. I was wondering if there was a quick rule of thumb say, rate x factor = chargeable rate. Where the factor allows for college days, holidays, NI etc

You can charge a customer what ever you want, I often if its a weekend and its not close will massively inflate my rate to a new customer if I dont really want to go do the job, if they want to find someone else thats fine, if they want to pay me silly money then ill go do it..

I would also think it depends on the job especially if its a year 1 apprentice, if its a job you have done before an you know the apprentice knows how to do stuff then yeah charge him out but there might be times where you have to spend as much time explaining to the apprentice what to do or for them to be watching you or you looking over their shoulder that you probably would think it unfair to charge them out.. So don't think their has to be a hard and fast rule.. Like if you get a job thats a one man job like changing a light then you might just get the apprentice to do the work and you stand and watch (supervise) in which case dont charge out for the apprentice..
 

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