I think I've failed the 2330 practical exam.

[Mr Curnow]

In the end I wasn't even aloud to power my installation. The earthing terminal was somehow disconnected even though I didn't disconnect it. I also had to have extended time plus I was reading the location of the installations wrong. I thought that I had to choose installation location 4 because it was bay 4, well I was wrong with that. It's only about 50mm out though so I don't know if they will be bothered. The neutral was from the isolator was in the wrong position.

But I proved continuity of cpc, polarity and the insulation resistance was >1000M ohm.
I also completed the book that we were given.

How were we supposed to know how the double pole isolator worked if we hadn't learnt it before.

All I can say is I'm much better at theory than practical, it's not like you can go home and wire up a house. There should be more practical experience in these courses.

I probably did fail didn't I, even the teacher told me that I probably failed.

 

[Electricalserv]

Well if he told you that you've failed. There should be more practical but if you are in the trade you are expected to be doing installs anyway. Unfortunately alot of apprentices are just t-boys!

 

[Mr Curnow]

What's a t-boy?

 

[Mr Curnow]

He said I probably failed.

 

[Electricalserv]

A excellent brew maker

 

[Paul.M]

Sounds like you made a couple of big mistakes mate, probably nerves got the better of you, it happens to the best of us. The disconnected main earth sounds like sabotage which does happen in workshops in college. Learn from your mistakes and move on, don't beat yourself up about it. Look at this as a lesson and not a failure. Good look if you have to do a resit.

 

[Mr Curnow]

I just want to get through this course I am so close to doing it. The first retake is free isn't it?

 

[Paul.M]

I just want to get through this course I am so close to doing it. The first retake is free isn't it?

Yes it should be.

Now you know what is expected of you it should be easier next time around. Concentrate on one thing at a time, if your connecting an isso switch check each termination as your doing it then move on to the next item, then the next and so on. After everything is installed start checking each circuit/termination one at a time, do it as if your checking someone else's work and see if you would pass it yourself.

I failed my 2391 practical first time around so I know how you feel. Have a few drinks tonight, get it out of your system because tomorrow is another day. Chin up Mr Curnow, chin up.

 

[hasel5]

Was it the 2391 practical or the other 2330 practical ?

 

[Electricalserv]

Was it the 2391 practical or the other 2330 practical ?

As the title thread

 

[hasel5]

sorry my fault

Is this like the AM2 ?

 

[Electricalserv]

sorry my fault

Is this like the AM2 ?

No its a tech cert but you have to so conduits and stuff to pass the practical side of things!

 

[hasel5]

got you never had that when i was learning just a day a week at college lol

 

[deadmau5]

Sorry to hear that mate. All the best for the rest of your course

 

[FatBob]

Sorry to hear that also. Treat it as an experience and learn from it, you will be stronger and more confident next time round.

 

[ebow72]

Are you on a College Course or a Training Skills Learning Course? I am currently at college and 1 of the lads in the 'Bay in a Day' exam also failed, but was lucky enough to be offered a resit. He takes it next week and it's free! It's not by anyway difficult the exam, the time just goes so fast and before you know your time is up. I really hope you get a resit and you'll fly through it next time. Keep going though and Good Luck Mr Curnow.

 

[CRAGS]

kepp going at it you know the drill now so next time you will walk it. When I did mine a few years ago time seems to go so quick you do not realise then it just puts you under more pressure especially when you got somebody shouting 2 hours to go 1 hour to go 30 mins to go etc

 

[simpson93]

sorry to here you failed i managed to fail my 301 yesterday after getting destinctions in the two testing practicals. managed to get 17 motor questions and failed by1 mark
i actualy think this has made me alot more nervous about the about the resit

 

[CRAGS]

17 Motor questions thats rough going or maybe unlucky....luck of the draw with 301 questions there is such a vast range of questions they can pick from I took the option of multiple guess on most of them and got lucky

 

[Mr Curnow]

I don't know if I have failed but I think I have, It was because of the isolator, also I think If I had sped up a bit then I would of passed probably. But the thing is, I think am slow to start off because I'm not sure the best way to start. I think to myself "How will I do this?" before the exam. I also struggle with terminating the cables, they always fall out, like the times when you are trying to fit three earth cables into a terminal. I think I'm just a naturally slow person at this stuff, I keep on dropping loads of stuff aswell, aswell as looking for my tools.

 

[Electricalserv]

You need to slow down and think of what's happening in the present and not the future. It's concentration. Rather than thinking if time scale just attack the job

 

[Mr Curnow]

Well I've never been good at concentration, never, I don't think it will change either.

 

[Mr Curnow]

If I have failed do I have to retake the voltage testing and the practical preparation aswell as the practical?

 

[ebow72]

I am getting confused here as to what practical you have just done, is it the 'bay in a day' or the fluorescent testing and 3 phase' testing?
If it's the bay in a day, I would imagine, you would have to undertake the actual practical itself, all the prep work and materials list would carrying on from the previous exam. The testing has to be done again as it's a new installation and technically the readings will be different. That's what happened with the lad on our course.

 

[72-van]

You need to slow down and think of what's happening in the present and not the future. It's concentration. Rather than thinking if time scale just attack the job​

Isnt this a quote from starwars be aware of the present young skywalker

sorry could nt resist

BUT my point is this forum is an excellent resource and a person can recieve quickly the benefit and wisdom of our sage like contributors .

thanks

72-van

 

[Paul.M]

Seems like you've got a speed problem. Is there any members in Poole, Dorset that could meet up with Mr Curnow and give him a few pointers? I'm sure a few beers may be paid for your help. Just an idea, it may be the lightbulb "ping" moment he needs.

 

[Mr Curnow]

I am under age so I can't go for a drink.

I have passed everything but the 'bay in a day'.

The termination of the cables probably took the longest, if anyone has any advice to terminate them easier then please post, they always fall out.

I think the only real way to be quick on site is to get more practice in.

 

[ExArmy]

I think the only real way to be quick on site is to get more practice in.

this is the only way.

and when trying to get multiple cables into an earth terminal i find it's easiest to use long nose pliers

 

[topquark]

I am under age so I can't go for a drink.

I have passed everything but the 'bay in a day'.

The termination of the cables probably took the longest, if anyone has any advice to terminate them easier then please post, they always fall out.

I think the only real way to be quick on site is to get more practice in.

Termination in accessories, CU or both ends?

 

[rmc86uk]

The termination of the cables probably took the longest, if anyone has any advice to terminate them easier then please post, they always fall out.

I think the only real way to be quick on site is to get more practice in.

Get yourself a good pair of snips/pliers and a good terminal screwdriver.

CK do a cable stripper that strips T+E you may find it easier with one of those.

It will come easier in time and once you've mastered grey twin you want to try stripping LSF!

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[Mr Curnow]

Termination in accessories, CU or both ends?

Well mainly in accessories like when you are trying to wire up a celing rose or some switches. I put the cable in tighten it up and then it falls out . I don't find the consumer unit hard to terminate.

 

[Paul.M]

It may be worth buying some accessories and practicing at home. I always do a tug test on every termination that I do to make sure its got a good connection.

 

[Mr Curnow]

That is what I try but I'm worried if I might pull to hard and rip it out even though it would of stayed there. So I don't pull it too hard.

 

[Mr Curnow]

If I did pass this being a very luck person, I would be so happy, so relieved. But still I think I'm in trouble.

 

[Adam W]

Depends who's marking the exam. I thought I had everything perfect, but Brian marked it and I got a pass.
My mate over the other side powered his up and it didn't work, then the busbar fell out, but Bill marked it and he walked away with a credit.

 

[Mr Curnow]

Well I had bill for the exam brian was watching the other half of my group. I think a few people screwed up, one person blew a fuse, another had lights flashing like mine, I had the neutral in the wrong place. But I think I got all the questions right on the booklet plus I tested it, was fine.

 

[Adam W]

You might be alright then. As I say it's a bit of a lottery with those two - Bill seems quite demanding in the exam but the way he marks seems more lenient. You didn't get sent home halfway through, which is a good sign.
As I remember it if you've failed they let you know shortly after the exam so you've got time to rebook, otherwise you have to wait a couple of months for the final results.

 

[Mr Curnow]

What like just a few weeks or something?

 

[Adam W]

If you've failed, yeah. I can't remember if they do that for all the exams or just some of them.

 

[topquark]

Well mainly in accessories like when you are trying to wire up a celing rose or some switches. I put the cable in tighten it up and then it falls out . I don't find the consumer unit hard to terminate.

That's just down to more practice. There is a definate nack and order of doing things when doing CU/DBs and getting them to look neat.

Get yourself a bit of plywood and attach a few accessories to it (surface mount boxes where needed) and just practice (a bit artificial, but at least you'll get to know how much cable to trim back for each type of accessory etc.