Interesting cut-out and meter install

[DPG]

What's your thoughts on this install done by a utility company? No prizes, just for fun

 

[davesparks]

Spectacular!

 

[DPG]

To be fair, the prep and finish of the tails is quite good. No copper or inner showing.

 

[suffolkspark]

never seen the DNO just tape up the neutral though usually has a breakout boot on ?

 

[DPG]

never seen the DNO just tape up the neutral though usually has a breakout boot on ?

Yeah bit messy that.

 

[suffolkspark]

was it found with missing meter cover also?

 

[sparkdog]

Very pretty.

 

[DPG]

It was found with the fuse carrier in place. This was removed on safety grounds, bearing in mind the interesting configuration of the supply. It was a colleague of mine who discovered it - and apparently 2 other properties in the block were wired in exactly the same way. So a phone call was made to advise them to point out the installers possible lack of knowledge of cut-outs.

 

[Ian1981]

After spending 10 minutes looking I’ve just clicked haha

 

[DPG]

After spending 10 minutes looking I’ve just clicked haha

I know what you mean. It didn't hit me at first - my initial thoughts were PME link missing.

 

[ferg]

OH Dear!

 

[static zap]

Very artistic / creative !
(so it is possible to have too neat / symmetrical )

 

[Baddegg]

Ummmmmmmmm WTAF!

 

[Baddegg]

Tidy though......

 

[MJPD29]

Whoever fitted that needs their tools confiscated forever

 

[gazdkw82]

I can't see it

Although in fairness iv had 3 hours sleep

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I can't see it

Although in fairness iv had 3 hours sleep

Live into bottom of fuse carrier.
Live and neutral out of top.

I guess the polarity is only half wrong?

 

[DPG]

I can't see it

Although in fairness iv had 3 hours sleep

You'll see it eventually. Then consider what danger it poses.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Hahahahaha that's priceless. SP-N, a.k.a 1-phase 1-wire. Some numpty has put blue ties on two of those tails though.

 

[marconi]

Presumably the installer had had some training to be let loose in society. One has to wonder what was not happening in his mind to recognise the mistake for himself. Even highly trained folk make cognitive mistakes - air line pilots for example, especially if they repeat the same thing over and over again. It is not unknown for airliners to attempt to land with the under carriage still up.

See: El Al pilots forget to lower wheels on Heathrow landing - https://www.timesofisrael.com/el-al-pilots-nearly-try-landing-with-wheels-up/

 

[rustynails]

so basically these properties have been supplied by single core swa with no secondary core for a neutral. I would guess this was spotted at initial verification before being switched on!?

 

[DPG]

so basically these properties have been supplied by single core swa with no secondary core for a neutral. I would guess this was spotted at initial verification before being switched on!?

No, not SWA - it' concentric. Perfectly fine that bit.

 

[static zap]

A staggering mistake (or NOT) as in this case.
--(Been itching to get all punny)--
Trying my best come up with a memory aid !

 

[telectrix]

can't see the meter being able to read anything. if anything works, it's free leccy.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Well yes, even if the meter is internally isolated you've got the Line available. Make safe the end of the brown tail in the DB, put blue in Line and green/yellow in Neutral, knock a rod in for the earth, pop the bullet in and seal it up so it all looks pukka and away you go.

 

[rustynails]

No, not SWA - it' concentric. Perfectly fine that bit.

so no link between neutral and earth

 

[Dave OCD]

It's also slightly worrying that quite a few posters to this thread didn't spot the issue in seconds.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

so no link between neutral and earth

Looks like there is a link
Looks like the brass block on the right is a 3 way terminal block. 2 neutral conductors and 1 earth conductor.

 

[rustynails]

Looks like there is a link
Looks like the brass block on the right is a 3 way terminal block. 2 neutral conductors and 1 earth conductor.

Nope can't see it neither if this arrangement is pme with a split con supply cable, neutrals and earths twisted, taped by black tape, connected to the brass block on the right at the bottom where is the connection/link between the top neutral from the meter and earth??

if not pme and depending on split/straight con cable type then neutrals and earths would need separate termination...

 

[DPG]

Rustynails, I think you're missing the point as regards how the neutral has been connected in this example.

 

[rustynails]

Rustynails, I think you're missing the point as regards how the neutral has been connected in this example.

clearly

 

[rustynails]

I’ve seen it now doh!!

 

[Selfmade]

Surely a functional test would have picked this up as nothing could work - Line and Neutral will be at the same potential. Unless I've completely misunderstood.

 

[DPG]

Selfmade - you have not misunderstood. Don't worry

 

[Wilko]

It must be a for special virtual current installation
Hopefully it's the first day's work for a newbie, but what happened to supervision?

 

[Optimus]

My gosh... Honestly at first glance it looked alright

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Erm....
How should it look?
There you go I said it.
What I mean is that my first reaction to this image was that you can see the brown line into the carrier without any mechanical protection. Surely this is not how you split supply line and neutral at the cutout?
Yet I take it that the fuse carrier should just have line in/line out, and that the neutral should come out the top of the right hand terminal block.
I need educating.

 

[freddo]

The installer should have used one of these, can't possibly go wrong then!

 

[Selfmade]

The installer should have used one of these, can't possibly go wrong then!

The enclosure for that isolator is not to Amendment 3.

 

[Wilko]

The enclosure for that isolator is not to Amendment 3.

Hi - the page is for the DNO and they don't follow BS7671.