JIB new rules / how to fight with them ?

[kulak]

Hello guys

Recently 2 of my friends have been to Sidcup to apply in person and to pay 230 pounds (!!!!!) to have in the same day the JIB card. Both of them are fully qualified ( 2391, 2391, 17 edition ) and a lot of experience as well. They received BOTH Electrical Labourer card ( ????!!!!! ) . What the hell is going on ? They tried to speak to them but nobody want to speak with them ??? In there were 4 ladies ( around 50-60 years old ) . One came later dressed look like she just came from "street", you know what i mean, also looks like she had a very busy night in pub. My friends been very upsets with their grades. I said to them to return the cards and to ask for refund, as is not fair to be treaten like this. We have to play every day with the death, we are all the time in danger to die, and they dont want to recognise our merits ! Shame on them ! Also i hold an Gold JIB card, witch is expired 1 month ago. Im afraid that they will give me now an basic card on the renewal. If this happend, i will send back to them CUTTED in xxxx pieces with many "thanks ". I have nothing to loose.

 

[Guest123]

Wether we like it or not, the JIB grading requirements are what they are.

Their website lays out clearly what is needed for each grade, I expect your friends are without the infamous NVQ 3 which is why they only achieved a Labourer grading. Did you check this before you set out??

Joint Industry Board

Exceptions are made on occasion where an application is supported by an employers endorsement or for 'grandfather' rights.

 

[kulak]

Yes, they are without that infamous NVQ3. Still i think is not fair what they are doing.

 

[stuart569]

Why is it unfair?It would be unfair if someone could waltz in with said qualifications and recieve electrician grade without doing the course while the rest of us have had to do it!

 

[trev]

2391 + 17th edition does not make you fully qualified

 

[trev]

I've got a first aid qualification, I guess that makes me a doctor.

 

[micknew]

I think his total disrespect and rude comments about the JIB ladies (who I'm sure made the right decision) is disgusting.
With his attitude best he does not become an electrician, he'd get us all a bad name.
His English would let him down anyway.
Guess whether I feel sorry for him?

 

[trev]

Am I alone in thinking this is a wind up?

 

[The Ranger]

I've got a first aid qualification, I guess that makes me a doctor.

Do you do brain transplants the op could do with one!

 

[Sparky_Ben]

£230 for a card surely not, thats madness to prove you arnt an electrician ?

 

[trev]

Do you do brain transplants the op could do with one!

I've not done one yet but I'll have a go mate, what could possibly go wrong. I have to play with the death every day after all hehe

 

[micknew]

If they are playing with death whilst doing electrical work they must be a danger to themselves and others!

 

[trev]

If they are playing with death whilst doing electrical work they must be a danger to themselves and others!

Maybe they think the 2391 will protect them from the death

 

[Deleted member 26818]

No it's the gold card that protects you.
It's a bit like garlic and vampires.

 

[trev]

No it's the gold card that protects you.
It's a bit like garlic and vampires.

Is there anything that card cannot do

 

[Deleted member 26818]

It won't let you get money out of a cash machine, and if you try, the machine will eat it.
Not too bad if the machine's outside a bank, and the bank's open.
You can get them to unlock the machine and get your card back.
If the bank's closed, or you're at a petrol station or supermarket, forget it.

 

[kulak]

I think his total disrespect and rude comments about the JIB ladies (who I'm sure made the right decision) is disgusting.
With his attitude best he does not become an electrician, he'd get us all a bad name.
His English would let him down anyway.
Guess whether I feel sorry for him?

Ha ha......should i feel sorry for those ladies ? NO. Instead of sleeping on the chairs at least can help you and can answer to our questions. We have to spend a lot of time in the school and a lot of money to do all the courses, and i thing we deserve some answers. I really dont know why you you are close to the ladies with your comments, is your problem. Also i thing you are disgusting with your comments. And just to let you know, im already an electrician. Also i dont think that to be an good electrician the english must be 100% perfect. I do speak 4 languages. If you dont fell sorry, is your problem. Any more comment from you welcome

 

[Arnold Layne]

Kulak, I am assuming that English is not your first language ( I am only saying this as it may be an explanation for a communication confusion) but please correct me if I am wrong. To address your point I think it needs to be understood that theoretical courses do not make an electrician ,although they are important they need to be combined with practical experience. Practical experience is required and that is demonstrated either through obtaining an NVQ 3 or by employer endorsement. This may be the reason for your friends not receiving the grading that they expected. I am sure that the "Ladies" were only following procedure... and on that point neither their gender nor the way they looked has any relevance.