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Welchyboy

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Im at the point where im struggling to stay under the VAT limit and im thinking of buying a new van in the next few months so i will need to shortly register for VAT, has any of you lads who do a fair bit of domestic work had problems with the extra hassle or cost to the customer? or has it worked out better for you!
I have tried to avoid it up to now cause all i get on nearly every job is the old 'can you do it cheaper for cash mate'
Although I would think commercial customers would be no problem

Anyone?
 
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I am VAT registered, and agree with the posts above, you would only be liable for paying backdated VAT if you go over the threshold without registering. If you register on time, you will not be liable for any VAT on income earned before registration, when you were below the threshold. I registered about a month before I predicted I would go over the threshold.

I am not sure about the current situation, but when I registered I was able reclaim the VAT on capital expenditure (tools, van, equipment) bought in the previous three years, which was helpful.

A word of warning, if you want to de register, you will be liable for VAT on all business assets for which you claimed VAT, at their current value, even if they are retained.

One other point about being registered, in general is that as previously mentioned, it only actually increases the price to your customer on the labour part of the invoice. Commercial customers often specifically choose a VAT registered business, as the it is the only way in which they can reclaim the VAT on the materials used in the job (unless they buy them themselves). I kept most of my regular customers after registering, and new customers seen to have more faith in a VAT registered company/sole trader.
 
And the tax man eventualy turns round and says "right wheres your materials invoices".......and you say "um um I got the customer to buy them themselves"....to which he replies "DO YOU THINK I'M DAFT!!!!?????!!!!????"......."YOURE GETTING IT"
 
And the tax man eventualy turns round and says "right wheres your materials invoices".......and you say "um um I got the customer to buy them themselves"....to which he replies "DO YOU THINK I'M DAFT!!!!?????!!!!????"......."YOURE GETTING IT"

You're not getting it are you?

I even posted the link to the HMRC site explaining all of this!

You keep accounts to show what you've turned over.

You keep receipts to show what you paid out in relation to generating the turnover.

You issue invoices to show where the turnover came from.

You charge VAT on sales.

You reclaim VAT on purchases.

You pay the difference to HMRC.

This is all standard business practice, nothing new and nothing complicated!
 
And the tax man eventualy turns round and says "right wheres your materials invoices".......and you say "um um I got the customer to buy them themselves"....to which he replies "DO YOU THINK I'M DAFT!!!!?????!!!!????"......."YOURE GETTING IT"

Remember- it's how you do your business.
It's quite easy for me to prove a customer buys the stuff themselves. I always sent them to the same wholesaler where they will be looked after and the wholesaler gives a recpt and takes payment on card.
Easy peasy
 

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