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Are the rumors true? If it is, I can only see that as being a bit of a blow to Stroma registered......
 
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Wilko

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Who’d want to be associated with those guys? Almost as bad as them over at the Peoples Front of Judea.
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Andy78

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Heard this for weeks now but not seen anything official. You think there would be obligations for official information in this instance ?
 
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Well ........ my Stroma membership is due in 5 days .............
 
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Stroma are finished. They will not be in the market in 12 months.

Napit are making some serious waves in the industry and NICEIC should be weary.
 

telectrix

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think it's time for me to startup a new cps scam. £100/year membership fee. forum members 5% off. cheques payable to "Competent and Safe Help". or "C.A.S.H." applications on a beermat.
 

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The only evidence I can present is this document.
A document filed in Feb 2019 showing a charge by a Leasing company against Napit, (same as a mortgage would be) usually for equipment or vehicles, it doesn't say.
Look at the company name on page 1, then scroll to the very last page.

Napit, Advancr Pdf
 

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The only evidence I can present is this document.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<Error><Code>AccessDenied</Code><Message>Request has expired</Message><X-Amz-Expires>60</X-Amz-Expires><Expires>2019-06-11T08:32:44Z</Expires><ServerTime>2019-06-11T09:10:06Z</ServerTime><RequestId>51373C978C8EF366</RequestId><HostId>b5aRCWvQFLM4GlCzt4SAMu10dpNDwxzHEt9zs4YG5aDjxJHwBvfGTf1B3XTl+ztSlVPNjTVZn1I=</HostId></Error> I will try and work it out ,with a enigma machine,lol.
 

telectrix

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jeez. no wonder solicitors charge £200+ per hour. I'd want more thsn that just to read that pile of legal jargon crap.
 

happyhippydad

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I'll believe it when I see it. It sounds a bit like Brexit, lots of noise but nothing actually happens.
 

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The only evidence I can present is this document.
A document filed in Feb 2019 showing a charge by a Leasing company against Napit, (same as a mortgage would be) usually for equipment or vehicles, it doesn't say.
Look at the company name on page 1, then scroll to the very last page.

Napit, Advancr Pdf
Lovely - they couldn’t even be bothered to clean up the doc from a previous use.
 

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Stroma are finished. They will not be in the market in 12 months.

Napit are making some serious waves in the industry and NICEIC should be weary.
As a Stroma member I'd be interested in any expansion on this info...
 

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Already contacted them they say no way. (Stroma)
Me too. As far as I can glean this rumour is being pushed about by the certsure crew to potential members via their stands at trade fairs as a way to drum up business for themselves.
 
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How anyone can construe that document, which is a charge on a loan as some kind of takeover of Stroma is beyond me.
 
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It does imply that they are a subsidiary
How do you divine that? I see mention of them but this a a class F commercial charge raised against NAPIT. The shares amount to 1p a nominal investment. Thats about it. Unless I have missed something.
 
According to this morgage document NAPIT hold 100 Class B shares in Stroma Installer Certification Limited (SICL) - that strongly suggests that A.N.Other holds at least 100 Class A shares.

SICL was only incorporated on 24/12/2018 and has almost no info at Companies House. At the time of incorporation it had 100 shares of £0.01, not divided into classes, which were held by Stroma Group Limited. Nothing at Comps Ho about class A or B shares. SICL has two directors, both of whom are directors of multiple Stroma companies.

But...within 2 months of incorporation another class of shares has been created, allotted to NAPIT and mortgaged....interesting, because to create and issue another class of shares you would have to hold a shareholders meeting and file something at Comps Ho - but nothing there.
 
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It still remains that there is no concrete evidence to believe Napit are acquiring Stroma @naylorpd ??? Surely just pure conjecture?
 
It still remains that there is no concrete evidence to believe Napit are acquiring Stroma @naylorpd ??? Surely just pure conjecture?
No proof at all - only that NAPIT own some B shares in a Stroma subsidiary, evidenced by the mortgage document. Could be 50%, could be less, unlikely to be more. The name of the Stroma subsidiary implies that it is connected with supplier certification, but OTOH its a very new company. Another possibility is a joint venture rather than a takeover. But all conjecture, no public documents to prove.
 

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so it turns out the rumors are true. Reading something, elsewhere that Stroma members are now being advised to ring NAPIT for any technical advice or anything regarding part P?
 

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so it turns out the rumors are true. Reading something, elsewhere that Stroma members are now being advised to ring NAPIT for any technical advice or anything regarding part P?
Heard that also. Apparently Stroma are ringing members to notify them. Not had my call yet but I'm sure it will take them a while to work through their member list.
All I've had so far is notification of a "strategic renaming" of the electrical installer scheme last week to a new company.
 

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Heard that also. Apparently Stroma are ringing members to notify them. Not had my call yet but I'm sure it will take them a while to work through their member list.
All I've had so far is notification of a "strategic renaming" of the electrical installer scheme last week to a new company.
Yeah I read that also...Stroma certification to Stroma installer certification or something along those lines? I wonder if their prices will rise...Surely NAPIT fees will have to be brought inline with Stroma or the other way round.
 

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Yeah I read that also...Stroma certification to Stroma installer certification or something along those lines? I wonder if their prices will rise...Surely NAPIT fees will have to be brought inline with Stroma or the other way round.
One would think so with it essentially being the same service.
Stroma used to offer the full scope service for a lot less.
 

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How many are independent now then? 3 maybe 4 left?
 

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