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Is this actually confirmed by anyone. I have put a post on Linkedin but no bites yet. The Chief Exec of NAPIT has been tagged though so maybe soon.
 

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Is this actually confirmed by anyone. I have put a post on Linkedin but no bites yet. The Chief Exec of NAPIT has been tagged though so maybe soon.
I’ve heard it from 2-3 members of Stroma, saying they’ve had calls from Stroma stating this. I haven’t seen anything official yet though.
 

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The directors of NAPIT were appointed directors of Stroma on 1st August
Companies house confirms this. The new company named Stroma installer certification limited shares an address with Napit's registered office and had three appointments 4 days ago for Napit linked individuals.
 

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Stroma always were going to struggle without significant capital as they were competing against certsure with the brand and dominance of NICEIC plus elecsa. to take on members so cheaply then provide the it support for certs and assessments would have been expensive. to compete and survive it makes sense for them to partner with NAPIT, i wouldnt be surprised if over time stroma does the part p and napit is all scopes. time will tell.
 
I had better check up then as I paid my bill for re assessment and they haven’t been in contact yet. So a phone call to them tomorrow methinks.
 
Had the call this morning from Stroma, apparently there will not be any immediate changes from our side except a change of phone number for tech support (presume this is the Napit number)

Maybe they will be renamed as Stropit?
 
Received an email from Stroma on 1st August stating:
"As of Wednesday 31 July 2019, your existing certification will be transferred to a new legal entity: Stroma Installer Certification Ltd.

Why is your certification being transferred to a new company?
The scheme transfer is being done for strategic reasons to separate the activities of Stroma Certification (which handles our energy assessor business) and Stroma Installer Certification (which handles our installer business)."

This will presumably make it easy for Stroma to sell off this part of their business, if they haven't yet actually done so.
 
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Yep they rang me today to inform me they were in Co-hoots. Don't know how I feel about this, having had a crap time with Napit in the past and moving to elecsa as a result then to Stroma for the past 4 years! What are other members thoughts on the transition? I can't believe that rates will stay the same for a start. Another bloody monopoly!!
 
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As it stands I believe that NAPIT are the only CPS that permits non-qualified people to join as electricians.
 

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Sorry @essex but is that really correct? How do you join a scheme with no qualifications, that really just makes a mockery of the whole system if true!
 

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Would also like to see more info on that!

Although I know Stroma were accepting people who hadn't even passed their AM2 a few years ago...on the premise that they get it done asap. Would a lunch of bunts.
 

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NAPIT EXPERIENCED WORKER ROUTE:

If you have years of valuable industry experience but lack the formal qualifications, we are here to help. If you are able to demonstrate your expertise, we may be able to offer you Experienced Worker Routes to some of our membership schemes.

These routes are designed for tradespeople with older, limited or no formal qualifications. You or your operative’s competency will be assessed based upon:

 

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NAPIT EXPERIENCED WORKER ROUTE:

If you have years of valuable industry experience but lack the formal qualifications, we are here to help. If you are able to demonstrate your expertise, we may be able to offer you Experienced Worker Routes to some of our membership schemes.

These routes are designed for tradespeople with older, limited or no formal qualifications. You or your operative’s competency will be assessed based upon:

It doesn't say the electrical scheme is included in this route.



There are several schemes that accept the Experienced Worker Route based on verifiable experience, including the plumbing, heating, ventilation and Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS).

For heating, plumbing and ventilation it is required to have a minimum of 3 years’ verifiable relevant experience as well as the requirements listed above.

The Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) has particular requirements based upon the length of experience you have within the scope(s) of work you are applying for as well as the requirements stated above. There are two categories that can be accepted for the EWR: Category 1:3 or more years’ experience and Category 2:1 to 3 years’ experience. Further information can be found in MCS 025 which is available from the MCS website.
 

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NAPIT EXPERIENCED WORKER ROUTE:

If you have years of valuable industry experience but lack the formal qualifications, we are here to help. If you are able to demonstrate your expertise, we may be able to offer you Experienced Worker Routes to some of our membership schemes.

These routes are designed for tradespeople with older, limited or no formal qualifications. You or your operative’s competency will be assessed based upon:

The experienced worker route does not include electrical installations though, according to that link posted.
 
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It doesn't say the electrical scheme is included in this route.



There are several schemes that accept the Experienced Worker Route based on verifiable experience, including the plumbing, heating, ventilation and Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS).

For heating, plumbing and ventilation it is required to have a minimum of 3 years’ verifiable relevant experience as well as the requirements listed above.

The Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) has particular requirements based upon the length of experience you have within the scope(s) of work you are applying for as well as the requirements stated above. There are two categories that can be accepted for the EWR: Category 1:3 or more years’ experience and Category 2:1 to 3 years’ experience. Further information can be found in MCS 025 which is available from the MCS website.
I stand corrected on that one then.
 
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I have also just had my phone call from Stroma saying that they are being taken over by Napit.

However, just to put any Stroma members minds at rest they said there are to be no changes apart from the technical line number and a slight change to their name as others have said (which still includes Stroma)! We still use the same portal for our notifications, we still have Stroma assessors, there are no changes to the requirements for being a member of Stroma and they will still be called Stroma.

Although I forgot to ask about the price!:D
 

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I have also just had my phone call from Stroma saying that they are being taken over by Napit.

However, just to put any Stroma members minds at rest they said there are to be no changes apart from the technical line number and a slight change to their name as others have said (which still includes Stroma)! We still use the same portal for our notifications, we still have Stroma assessors, there are no changes to the requirements for being a member of Stroma and they will still be called Stroma.

Although I forgot to ask about the price!:D
I got called by NAPIT not Stroma.

I asked about branding and was told "Oh yeah still Stroma for now"
I asked if it would change as I was about to get some cards and leaflets done with logos on. "Erm, you best call back and speak to someone else as I'm just going through this list of members"

I asked about price difference " Well of course we aren't allowed to jack the price up overnight, we won't be doing that just yet"

Hmmmm...
 
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Just found this page.
Had my annual assessment at the beginning of July, no problems on the assessment but my liability insurance was expiring. Sent them a copy of the new policy on 10th July but it still has not been updated on their system and now I cannot do any notifications as the system says I have no insurance. Been trying to get through on the phone for the last couple of days with no joy. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.
 

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I can't see a problem with collecting companies.
AFAIK, Censure owns NICEIC and since the ECA went belly up in 2008ish now owns ECA and ELECSA.
It wouldn't surprise me if NAPIT didn't buy out Censure after their thrilling performance at the last parliamentary committee meeting, and we're back with one cartel preaching one standard without the indentureship required pre-CITB and then JIB.
 

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Just found this page.
Had my annual assessment at the beginning of July, no problems on the assessment but my liability insurance was expiring. Sent them a copy of the new policy on 10th July but it still has not been updated on their system and now I cannot do any notifications as the system says I have no insurance. Been trying to get through on the phone for the last couple of days with no joy. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.
Contact NAPIT and I'm sure that they can sort this for you.
 
Just had my Stroma subs refunded, called Napit they werent able to tell me who to pay instead, but the portal still works as of 10 mins ago...my assessment is months overdue and all they told me is that they have a 3 month backlog...think I might notify a few jobs 'in advance' lol.
 

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Finally got to call stroma back today...mentioned that I nearly went with napit this year and she said within 2 years all stroma members will be napit members completely with stroma logos etc being phased out...
 
So if Stroma installer certification is now part of Napit can we access the Napit software etc for notifications? might be a bit better than the Stroma offering.
 

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So if Stroma installer certification is now part of Napit can we access the Napit software etc for notifications? might be a bit better than the Stroma offering.
Told me today that notification is backed up for months...bit of a mess I think,
 
Told me today that notification is backed up for months...bit of a mess I think,
Tell me about it. Had my annual assessment beginning of July, all fine. Updated my PL and PI details with them 2nd week in July. Now I am blocked from doing notifications as the system says I am not insured.
Can not get through to anyone at Stroma and Napit say as it is pre-1st August they can not help me with this problem and I need to contact Stroma to get it resolved.
Making me look a right numpty to my customers. Wonder if I could make a claim for reputational damage as a result of this. £££££
 

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Tell me about it. Had my annual assessment beginning of July, all fine. Updated my PL and PI details with them 2nd week in July. Now I am blocked from doing notifications as the system says I am not insured.
Can not get through to anyone at Stroma and Napit say as it is pre-1st August they can not help me with this problem and I need to contact Stroma to get it resolved.
Making me look a right numpty to my customers. Wonder if I could make a claim for reputational damage as a result of this. £££££
I’d ask for me money back if you can’t notify,
 

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Tell me about it. Had my annual assessment beginning of July, all fine. Updated my PL and PI details with them 2nd week in July. Now I am blocked from doing notifications as the system says I am not insured.
Can not get through to anyone at Stroma and Napit say as it is pre-1st August they can not help me with this problem and I need to contact Stroma to get it resolved.
Making me look a right numpty to my customers. Wonder if I could make a claim for reputational damage as a result of this. £££££
Think if this went on for more than a few weeks, I'd seek some legal advice and consider going with another scheme and getting your money back through small claims?
 

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