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so it turns out the rumors are true. Reading something, elsewhere that Stroma members are now being advised to ring NAPIT for any technical advice or anything regarding part P?
Heard that also. Apparently Stroma are ringing members to notify them. Not had my call yet but I'm sure it will take them a while to work through their member list.
All I've had so far is notification of a "strategic renaming" of the electrical installer scheme last week to a new company.
 
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Heard that also. Apparently Stroma are ringing members to notify them. Not had my call yet but I'm sure it will take them a while to work through their member list.
All I've had so far is notification of a "strategic renaming" of the electrical installer scheme last week to a new company.
Yeah I read that also...Stroma certification to Stroma installer certification or something along those lines? I wonder if their prices will rise...Surely NAPIT fees will have to be brought inline with Stroma or the other way round.
 

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Yeah I read that also...Stroma certification to Stroma installer certification or something along those lines? I wonder if their prices will rise...Surely NAPIT fees will have to be brought inline with Stroma or the other way round.
One would think so with it essentially being the same service.
Stroma used to offer the full scope service for a lot less.
 

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How many are independent now then? 3 maybe 4 left?
 
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NICEIC/ELECSA/ECA , NAPIT/Stroma, BSI, blueflame I think.
 
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Is this actually confirmed by anyone. I have put a post on Linkedin but no bites yet. The Chief Exec of NAPIT has been tagged though so maybe soon.
 
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Is this actually confirmed by anyone. I have put a post on Linkedin but no bites yet. The Chief Exec of NAPIT has been tagged though so maybe soon.
I’ve heard it from 2-3 members of Stroma, saying they’ve had calls from Stroma stating this. I haven’t seen anything official yet though.
 

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Stroma always were going to struggle without significant capital as they were competing against certsure with the brand and dominance of NICEIC plus elecsa. to take on members so cheaply then provide the it support for certs and assessments would have been expensive. to compete and survive it makes sense for them to partner with NAPIT, i wouldnt be surprised if over time stroma does the part p and napit is all scopes. time will tell.
 

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I had better check up then as I paid my bill for re assessment and they haven’t been in contact yet. So a phone call to them tomorrow methinks.
 

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Received an email from Stroma on 1st August stating:
"As of Wednesday 31 July 2019, your existing certification will be transferred to a new legal entity: Stroma Installer Certification Ltd.

Why is your certification being transferred to a new company?
The scheme transfer is being done for strategic reasons to separate the activities of Stroma Certification (which handles our energy assessor business) and Stroma Installer Certification (which handles our installer business)."

This will presumably make it easy for Stroma to sell off this part of their business, if they haven't yet actually done so.
 
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Yep they rang me today to inform me they were in Co-hoots. Don't know how I feel about this, having had a crap time with Napit in the past and moving to elecsa as a result then to Stroma for the past 4 years! What are other members thoughts on the transition? I can't believe that rates will stay the same for a start. Another bloody monopoly!!
 
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As it stands I believe that NAPIT are the only CPS that permits non-qualified people to join as electricians.
 

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Would also like to see more info on that!

Although I know Stroma were accepting people who hadn't even passed their AM2 a few years ago...on the premise that they get it done asap. Would a lunch of bunts.
 

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NAPIT EXPERIENCED WORKER ROUTE:

If you have years of valuable industry experience but lack the formal qualifications, we are here to help. If you are able to demonstrate your expertise, we may be able to offer you Experienced Worker Routes to some of our membership schemes.

These routes are designed for tradespeople with older, limited or no formal qualifications. You or your operative’s competency will be assessed based upon:

 

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NAPIT EXPERIENCED WORKER ROUTE:

If you have years of valuable industry experience but lack the formal qualifications, we are here to help. If you are able to demonstrate your expertise, we may be able to offer you Experienced Worker Routes to some of our membership schemes.

These routes are designed for tradespeople with older, limited or no formal qualifications. You or your operative’s competency will be assessed based upon:

It doesn't say the electrical scheme is included in this route.



There are several schemes that accept the Experienced Worker Route based on verifiable experience, including the plumbing, heating, ventilation and Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS).

For heating, plumbing and ventilation it is required to have a minimum of 3 years’ verifiable relevant experience as well as the requirements listed above.

The Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) has particular requirements based upon the length of experience you have within the scope(s) of work you are applying for as well as the requirements stated above. There are two categories that can be accepted for the EWR: Category 1:3 or more years’ experience and Category 2:1 to 3 years’ experience. Further information can be found in MCS 025 which is available from the MCS website.
 

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NAPIT EXPERIENCED WORKER ROUTE:

If you have years of valuable industry experience but lack the formal qualifications, we are here to help. If you are able to demonstrate your expertise, we may be able to offer you Experienced Worker Routes to some of our membership schemes.

These routes are designed for tradespeople with older, limited or no formal qualifications. You or your operative’s competency will be assessed based upon:

The experienced worker route does not include electrical installations though, according to that link posted.
 
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It doesn't say the electrical scheme is included in this route.



There are several schemes that accept the Experienced Worker Route based on verifiable experience, including the plumbing, heating, ventilation and Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS).

For heating, plumbing and ventilation it is required to have a minimum of 3 years’ verifiable relevant experience as well as the requirements listed above.

The Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) has particular requirements based upon the length of experience you have within the scope(s) of work you are applying for as well as the requirements stated above. There are two categories that can be accepted for the EWR: Category 1:3 or more years’ experience and Category 2:1 to 3 years’ experience. Further information can be found in MCS 025 which is available from the MCS website.
I stand corrected on that one then.
 
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I have also just had my phone call from Stroma saying that they are being taken over by Napit.

However, just to put any Stroma members minds at rest they said there are to be no changes apart from the technical line number and a slight change to their name as others have said (which still includes Stroma)! We still use the same portal for our notifications, we still have Stroma assessors, there are no changes to the requirements for being a member of Stroma and they will still be called Stroma.

Although I forgot to ask about the price!:D
 

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I have also just had my phone call from Stroma saying that they are being taken over by Napit.

However, just to put any Stroma members minds at rest they said there are to be no changes apart from the technical line number and a slight change to their name as others have said (which still includes Stroma)! We still use the same portal for our notifications, we still have Stroma assessors, there are no changes to the requirements for being a member of Stroma and they will still be called Stroma.

Although I forgot to ask about the price!:D
I got called by NAPIT not Stroma.

I asked about branding and was told "Oh yeah still Stroma for now"
I asked if it would change as I was about to get some cards and leaflets done with logos on. "Erm, you best call back and speak to someone else as I'm just going through this list of members"

I asked about price difference " Well of course we aren't allowed to jack the price up overnight, we won't be doing that just yet"

Hmmmm...
 

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Looks like there is an official announcement:

(I hope this is allowed as it goes to a trade press website, if not, sorry.)
 

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Just found this page.
Had my annual assessment at the beginning of July, no problems on the assessment but my liability insurance was expiring. Sent them a copy of the new policy on 10th July but it still has not been updated on their system and now I cannot do any notifications as the system says I have no insurance. Been trying to get through on the phone for the last couple of days with no joy. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.
 

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I can't see a problem with collecting companies.
AFAIK, Censure owns NICEIC and since the ECA went belly up in 2008ish now owns ECA and ELECSA.
It wouldn't surprise me if NAPIT didn't buy out Censure after their thrilling performance at the last parliamentary committee meeting, and we're back with one cartel preaching one standard without the indentureship required pre-CITB and then JIB.
 

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