Outside lights Part P with outside socket ?

[Steve bodie]

Hi I’m new to this forum, hope I can get some good advice.
I want to install 2 outside lights on a wall. They will be the highest IP rated I can get. I was going to use 3 core armoured cable or conduit to run the cable to an RCD protected outside socket on a plug. My question is this, because the circuit is not fixed wired into my house and can only be operated from outside. Do I still need part P. I am competent to do it myself but obviously if it needs part P I’ll get a spark to do. Many thanks.
Steve

 

[telectrix]

need more info. is the circuit you are connecting to RCD protected anyway? how are you going to feed SWA cable from a plug? best advice is to get a sparks in to do the job safely. I cover the west and south of Manchester if you're interested.

 

[Steve bodie]

My consumer unit is protected. My double outside socket is RCD protected. If I use conduit I can put a plug on the end

 

[GeorgeCooke]

You don't need two RCDs in line. The one on the outside socket is superfluous.

You can't put a plug on conduit.

If it were me I would possibly use artic cable which is OK for outside provided the socket was not too low where it could be damaged.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I want to install 2 outside lights on a wall. They will be the highest IP rated I can get.

Unless this wall is planning on going deep sea diving, you're just throwing money away getting IP68 gear.

 

[Steve bodie]

Unless this wall is planning on going deep sea diving, you're just throwing money away getting IP68 gear.

Well I do live in Manchester it rains a lot !!

 

[mattg4321]

If you're competent to do this job you already know the answers

 

[Steve bodie]

If you're competent to do this job you already know the answers

The question was do I need a certificate

 

[GeorgeCooke]

The question was do I need a certificate

What certificate?
If it is notifiable work you will need to contact building control before you start. Then when you are finished they will need to inspect it. All very expensive.

 

[DPG]

Installation work should always have a certificate showing test results. I think you mean is it notifiable?

 

[DPG]

Are you intending fitting a 13A mains plug (note, I said plug so no need for any thread diversion) on to armoured cable?

 

[Steve bodie]

Ok I’ll start again. I’m putting some lights on my garden wall they will be wired to a plug I’m going to conduit it so the cable is protected. I’m plugging it in outside to an outside socket and switching on when I’m sat in the garden. Will I get told off, is it safe

 

[Steve bodie]

Are you intending fitting a 13A mains plug (note, I said plug so no need for any thread diversion) on to armoured cable?

Yes mate standard plug

 

[DPG]

Yes mate standard plug

That won't work well.
And how would you be glanding the cable at the other end?

 

[Steve bodie]

How come. It’s just 3 core on a plug

 

[DPG]

How are you eathing the armour?

 

[Steve bodie]

I’m not using armour now just going to use arctic in the plastic conduit

 

[DPG]

I’m not using armour now just going to use arctic in the plastic conduit

Sorry must have missed that.

 

[Steve bodie]

No worries. Do I need to notify building regs as it’s a removable lamp !

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Why don’t you just feed the lights from a lighting circuit in the house?

 

[Steve bodie]

I would like to do this but my house has nice smooth plastered walls. Not keen on chasing everything out

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I would like to do this but my house has nice smooth plastered walls. Not keen on chasing everything out

If you sited the outside lights just above the height of your ceilings, you could then drill through the wall into the void between your ceiling and floor.
No chasing required.

 

[Steve bodie]

If you sited the outside lights just above the height of your ceilings, you could then drill through the wall into the void between your ceiling and floor.
No chasing required.

Yeah something I can’t do