Periodic inspections for holiday lets?(sorry EICR!!!)

[SX2]

What is the general opinion for time until next inspection for a holiday let property, I have always put 1 year, I know this can be somewhat a grey area but my understanding is that the duration between inspections should be dependent on how old the install is vs it's condition (ten years - new install down to five years at twenty years for example) or at change of occupancy.
Now with holiday let the occupancy changes every week or two but it would be impractical to carry out a periodic every week so we say once a year is satisfactory?

I have recently (both last Saturday!) been to two holiday lets where the times are much greater and have began to question myself! and of course the owners are thinking i am just after work and that ain't further from the truth, and one of them is leading to another post in a minute!

Thanks guys i look forward to your input!

Steve.

 

[IQ Electrical]

What is the general opinion for time until next inspection for a holiday let property, I have always put 1 year, I know this can be somewhat a grey area but my understanding is that the duration between inspections should be dependent on how old the install is vs it's condition (ten years - new install down to five years at twenty years for example) or at change of occupancy.
Now with holiday let the occupancy changes every week or two but it would be impractical to carry out a periodic every week so we say once a year is satisfactory?

I have recently (both last Saturday!) been to two holiday lets where the times are much greater and have began to question myself! and of course the owners are thinking i am just after work and that ain't further from the truth, and one of them is leading to another post in a minute!

Thanks guys i look forward to your input!

Steve.

It's a Periodic Inspection Report until 01/01/12.

As the inspector, it falls on you to make a judgement on the interval to the next inspection.

What condition is the installation generally? Are there any routine maintenance checks? How old is the installation? Is the installation subjected to any arduous external influences?

All of these factors will have an influence on your decision.

 

[malcolmsanford]

The GN 3 recommends hotels every 5 years, but to be honest hotels are most likely to be kept in a better condition that holiday lets. It really is your call as the tester, if the installation is open to abuse then you can make it as often as you deem fit, if it's old the same. It's an hard call but it is your call.

 

[SX2]

I agree with you both and for me a holiday let should be a minimum of 1 year as you don't know what the possible 52 tenants could have done, but try explaining this to a owner who prefers cash in his pocket not the reassurance his tenants are safe!!

 

[Des 56]

On the other hand,most people going on hoilday are far too busy enjoying themselves to go to the trouble of making alterations to the electrics
Regular maintenance identifying broken accessories could be a better way of ensuring safety than a more frequent period between periodic tests

 

[malcolmsanford]

I hate to say this but you could advise the landlord to have a 6 monthly visual check done, similar if not the same as the NICEIC one (eeekkkkk) and a ful every 3-5 years. That way your really doing a maintenace schedule as such for him, and you could do a really cheap price on the visual.

 

[IQ Electrical]

I hate to say this but you could advise the landlord to have a 6 monthly visual check done, similar if not the same as the NICEIC one (eeekkkkk) and a ful every 3-5 years. That way your really doing a maintenace schedule as such for him, and you could do a really cheap price on the visual.

Absolutely agree, maybe a 3-year full periodic supplemented with an annual visual condition report, a decent cost saving for the landlord while maintaining his responsibilities as the duty holder.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Or you could suggest that an inspection is done at every change of tenancy, as would usually be advised to Landlords of long let properties.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Or you could suggest that an inspection is done at every change of tenancy, as would usually be advised to Landlords of long let properties.

The op is talking weekly lets.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The op is talking weekly lets.

I understand that, I got the impression that he was concerned that his recommended intervals between inspections were too short.
I was just pointing out that the general advice for residential accommodation is one year, or at change of tenancy.

 

[truckster]

I hate to say this but you could advise the landlord to have a 6 monthly visual check done, similar if not the same as the NICEIC one (eeekkkkk) and a ful every 3-5 years. That way your really doing a maintenace schedule as such for him, and you could do a really cheap price on the visual.

Agree with Malcolm here. You could go with the 3/5 inspection and even provide a visual inspection check sheet for the owner/staff to use between visitors. I did this for a small holiday site (10 units) and even ran through the basic things to look out for with the staff. Brought in a steady stream of small jobs throughout the season and the owner thought I was very helpful.

 

[Hawca]

Its might be worth looking at 622.1 and 622.2, depending on the maintenace schedule, useage, and other factors.

Also enquire about the Public liability insurance they have as that will also have a stipulation on it.
When testing Pubs, Clubs and gaming halls etc its 1 year due to the Public factor.

On other point come Jan 2012 it will still be a Periodic inspection, only the form changes from a periodic inspection report to an electrical installation conditioning report. only the paper work changes and the information we record.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Its might be worth looking at 622.1 and 622.2, depending on the maintenace schedule, useage, and other factors.

Also enquire about the Public liability insurance they have as that will also have a stipulation on it.
When testing Pubs, Clubs and gaming halls etc its 1 year due to the Public factor.

On other point come Jan 2012 it will still be a Periodic inspection, only the form changes from a periodic inspection report to an electrical installation conditioning report. only the paper work changes and the information we record.

Electrical Installation Condition Report

 

[Hawca]

Electrical Installation Condition Report

well spotted

 

[Adam W]

On the other hand,most people going on hoilday are far too busy enjoying themselves to go to the trouble of making alterations to the electrics
Regular maintenance identifying broken accessories could be a better way of ensuring safety than a more frequent period between periodic tests

I agree - holidaymakers are unlikely to start DIYing in there, but a brief visual inspection at the change of each tenancy would reveal any broken fittings etc. This could be carried out by maintenance or even housekeeping staff at the park.
With that in mind, a full PIR once a year sounds reasonable.